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The universe must be created by one who is uncreated

To believe that the universe created itself is illogical for existence and nonexistance are not possible at the same time.

To believe that the universe is made from nothing is also illogical.

The logical conclusion is to believe that the universe is created. And that creator must not be created otherwise who created the creator? For the universe to exist the rational conclusion is that the one who created it must always exist and posses the ability to create.

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redredred · M

Who says your logic is up to understanding the universe? Isn't that fairly pretentious to assume that the universe must make sense to you and the only answer that you can understand must be right?

I'm sorry but there could easily be some limits to human understanding and the origin of the universe might just be such a limit.