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The universe must be created by one who is uncreated

To believe that the universe created itself is illogical for existence and nonexistance are not possible at the same time.

To believe that the universe is made from nothing is also illogical.

The logical conclusion is to believe that the universe is created. And that creator must not be created otherwise who created the creator? For the universe to exist the rational conclusion is that the one who created it must always exist and posses the ability to create.

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SW-User

What's good to claim of God is also good to claim of nature. Nature always was. God is a recent invention.

SomeHand · 31-35, M

@SW-User why are you talking about God?

SomeHand · 31-35, M

@SW-User I’m just talking about the fact that if something is created the natural conclusion is that something or someone created it. Why don’t you understand?

SomeHand · 31-35, M

@SW-User please stop imposing your view of God on this. Your view of God is unbelievable and you do not believe in God

SW-User

@SomeHand You made a false and harmful statement that nature must be created by an intelligence. I'm helping you to see past your false assumption and guide you towards fair assessment.

To say that you've made a logical conclusion is a damnable lie in betrayal to Mankind. Shame on you!