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The universe must be created by one who is uncreated

To believe that the universe created itself is illogical for existence and nonexistance are not possible at the same time.

To believe that the universe is made from nothing is also illogical.

The logical conclusion is to believe that the universe is created. And that creator must not be created otherwise who created the creator? For the universe to exist the rational conclusion is that the one who created it must always exist and posses the ability to create.

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lorelei

Nobody said "it created itself". So, ergo, your entire premise here is rendered moot.

Both astronomers and cosmologists say they don't know why or how it was created.

SomeHand · 31-35, M

@lorelei our of the logical viewpoints it can be claimed. Idk what you mean that it is all uprooted. The statement still stands.

lorelei

Sounds like you're just too dumb to see why what you said is wrong.

That is all.

SomeHand · 31-35, M

@lorelei no