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Fernie · F
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Fernie · F
@Jm31xxx Thank you for saying and knowing that!! I get SO angry when people not only throw a living creature into boiling water...but then they justify it with "Lobsters don't have nerve endings so they don't feel a thing" I worked in a seafood restaurant and they would line the poor things up on a metal table as they waited for their turn and one of us would be assigned to rub their tails to keep them calm...and it did...no nerve endings????
Jm31xxx · 41-45, M
@Fernie fuck that's awful, I wouldnt have been able to handle it. And I've heard they actually [i]scream[/i]. Once I was at work (in like this prestigious accountansy firm which had a fancy restaurant to impress prospective clients) and the chef had some live lobsters delivered. He then thought it was funny to run around literally forcing live lobsters in people's faces just to get a scream out of them. It was almost as if these lobsters were just waterpistols or something. I've been at least a bit wary of chefs ever since.
Btw, when I had the snails I was like 8 and had no understanding of how they may have been cooked.
Btw, when I had the snails I was like 8 and had no understanding of how they may have been cooked.
Fernie · F
@Jm31xxx You clearly have compassion for other living things so the snail thing is ALL forgiven :>
I tell people about the tail rubbing as they prepare to torture the lobster but they will not hear me. I got fired from a deli I worked at because I refused to go in the tank and pull out lobsters for the customer.
I'm glad you're out there
I tell people about the tail rubbing as they prepare to torture the lobster but they will not hear me. I got fired from a deli I worked at because I refused to go in the tank and pull out lobsters for the customer.
I'm glad you're out there
Jm31xxx · 41-45, M
@Fernie you should take getting fired from that deli as a batch of honour. Seriously, you should have more self esteem for getting kicked out of there.
I'm not actually a vegetarian or anything btw, but sometimes (and I mean to the extent of getting paranoid) I get real worried that eating fellow mammals is a terrible mortal sin....
Sure mammals are no where near as intellectually as smart as us but in terms of emotional [i]depth[/i], all mammals [i]may[/i] be on a par with us (how would we even know?).
For years I would only eat fish cuz I figured they are not capable of the depth of feeling mammals are (I mean emotionally).....but a few years back I moved to like a rural (ish) location where if I walk in 30 minutes in any direction, I start to go past farms and see sheep and cows.
Anyway, every time I see them, they seem to have a rather idyllic existence where they are well fed and have no fear from predators. If humans didn't eat them, if they even existed, it would only be in the wild and all day long, they would basically be on the run from fiercer carnivores. So if we don't eat them, something else will and they will probably die partially aphixiated (from the chase) and also from beings ripped to shreds by teeth/claws/talons. But I've been reading some stuff lately that made me rethink all that.
I don't think I'd be capable of eating a strictly pure vegetarian diet though, I think I'd always need to at least eat fish (and maybe chicken sometimes).
I'm 99% sure fish are neither capable of abstract speculation or maternal instincts, which (imo) makes it not morally horribly evil to eat them. I dearly hope.
I'm not actually a vegetarian or anything btw, but sometimes (and I mean to the extent of getting paranoid) I get real worried that eating fellow mammals is a terrible mortal sin....
Sure mammals are no where near as intellectually as smart as us but in terms of emotional [i]depth[/i], all mammals [i]may[/i] be on a par with us (how would we even know?).
For years I would only eat fish cuz I figured they are not capable of the depth of feeling mammals are (I mean emotionally).....but a few years back I moved to like a rural (ish) location where if I walk in 30 minutes in any direction, I start to go past farms and see sheep and cows.
Anyway, every time I see them, they seem to have a rather idyllic existence where they are well fed and have no fear from predators. If humans didn't eat them, if they even existed, it would only be in the wild and all day long, they would basically be on the run from fiercer carnivores. So if we don't eat them, something else will and they will probably die partially aphixiated (from the chase) and also from beings ripped to shreds by teeth/claws/talons. But I've been reading some stuff lately that made me rethink all that.
I don't think I'd be capable of eating a strictly pure vegetarian diet though, I think I'd always need to at least eat fish (and maybe chicken sometimes).
I'm 99% sure fish are neither capable of abstract speculation or maternal instincts, which (imo) makes it not morally horribly evil to eat them. I dearly hope.
Fernie · F
@Jm31xxx "So if we don't eat them, something else will "
I'm sorry to say that...that's right up there with "they have no nerve endings" I visited a slaughterhouse 45 years ago and I have not eaten any flesh since. Humans do NOT need meat. Go see what happens to these animals you are saving from natural predators
I'm sorry to say that...that's right up there with "they have no nerve endings" I visited a slaughterhouse 45 years ago and I have not eaten any flesh since. Humans do NOT need meat. Go see what happens to these animals you are saving from natural predators