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So let me get this straight, life won't go right for me unless I believe in Yeshua

That doesn't sound like much of a choice. Ultimatum type of thing, either you believe in me or you suffer. Kinda cruel maybe.

And it's not just about believing, it's following all these rules and abstenance.

Believing whole hartedly in Yeshua is believing that he is everywhere and manifested through everyone so thats kind of creepy to me.

Am I talking to my dad, brother or you Yeshua. If that's you behind them then are they really their own person, insanity.

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greenmountaingal · 70-79, F

When a lifeguard approaches you in a boat in shark infested waters, that lifeguard did not create the sharks.

dark548 · M

@greenmountaingal except yeshua created everything.

greenmountaingal · 70-79, F

@dark548 He gave free will. Some rebelled and have done things their own way ever since.

dark548 · M

@greenmountaingal So then they are condemn to eternal hell all becuase they chose to exercise option B of free will. Sensible options.

greenmountaingal · 70-79, F

@dark548 God can rescue us from what was created and sustained by His enemies, but we have to want it.

dark548 · M

@greenmountaingal His enemies are him. He is everything is he not. Illogical.

greenmountaingal · 70-79, F

@dark548 I can hardly tell you what to believe, and I am not a Biblical expert. But, personally, I find that a simple faith in a loving God offers me a positive view of the universe and a reservoir of strength and comfort in times of trouble. Logic certainly has a lot of good practical uses and applications, but I do not find that it really addresses the complexities of human lives and the problem of suffering. When I believe, I am reaching beyond everyday thinking and holding on to a greater view and a higher reality. I grew up among very logical intellectual people...observing their thinking and their life choices and behavior turned me off forever to making logic and intellect the source of all of my thinking and feeling. I respect your questioning stereotypical Christian thinking and scare tactics. But I hope that someday you can see something good and beautiful beyond that and take some comfort in it as I have.

dark548 · M

@greenmountaingal To follow Yeshua would mean to me to let go of my own plan. I would follow his plan not mine, meaning letting go of my free will and individuality. Meaning becoming more robotic as I see it.

greenmountaingal · 70-79, F

@dark548 I understand. But a belief in God doesn't require you to give up your free will or individuality. Churches sometimes require that, but they are human organizations, not God.