Booboo: news is not balanced in the USA, they take a soundbite and play it repeatedly...they take a story about gross corruption and downplay it, do this repeatedly and they are trying to mold the attitudes and opinions of people and influence their votes and surveys. I see so many conflicts that everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Meh, I'm gonna go with her record during decades of pro bono and public service as an indicator of her competence and policy direction as president rather than some stupid meme. And anyway, for every allegedly shitty thing she's done there are about 20 verifiably shitty things her opponent has done, so if you are trying to make this election about who is the worse human being then I hate to tell you this but that dog is not gonna hunt. Frankly I would have more serious concerns about her ethics and professionalism if she did not do everything legally permissible to successfully defend her client. That is a requirement of the profession and a foundational element in a justice system that is designed to protect accused citizens from being crushed by a prosecuting state.

@patti. No, defense lawyers cannot simply quit a case for those reasons at all. There are cases in which an attorney may request that the court allow them to withdraw from representing their client due to ongoing fraudulent activity, failure to pay fees or refusal to follow attorney advice, but quitting a case due to feeling like your client is guilty will rightly get an attorney disbarred and create the need for retrial since it would prejudice the jury against the defendant in a manner that denies them due process.

Donald Trump doesn't even know what Donald Trump is saying.

if the Republicans want to win this election they need to find another candidate very quickly

Patti : Donald Trump himself is accused of raping a 13year old. Today he endorsed sexual assault at the workplace literally. His lurid comments about women, bragging about how many married women he has bedded should make it clear about his moral compass. He didn't even leave his own daughter.

I bet you wished you wouldn't have asked this or perhaps you have gone to pop some corn and have come back to watch? 🍿

Bijoux: mainstream media...they have an agenda....it's quite obvious...you can tell who they favor and who they don't just by the photos they post of people...the ones they support show flattering photos, the ones they don't, they post castigated ones....

@Patti... It's all they have. And as you point out, it's what they do.

Some of it is, some of it isn't.

The thing you have to understand about Trump is that nobody out there possesses the imagination necessary to fabricate things about him that are more inane, crazy or self-immolating than the things he himself says and does on a daily basis.

Meh, I suspect Nimbus knows by now: questions about U.S. politics = instant free for all. 🤔

The media is taking things out of context, he says something with humor and they run with it like it was a serious remark. My narcissistic sister is proficient at that. She can say whatever she wants but if I say a little joke she tells it like it's a serious thing. Tired of dealing with anyone who starts trouble that way.

Yes...a vote for Trump will be a vote for history. Obama was our first black president. Trump will be our first orange one.

Donald Trump may actually not personally be a racist either. But he is making use of racism for political gain and thereby he and any of his supporters are complicit in racism. Your assessment of my analysis doesn't have any affect on it's validity, despite your rarified intellectual achievement of possessing an MBA.

Lol...I could go through and probably find a dozen posts in about 5 minutes where carpe went off the rails and insulted people immediately for sharing a difference of opinion. Just playing your own game man.

@patti. So I guess we should just ditch due process and deny legal counsel to people who have been accused of heinous crimes?

Strange... that was for claiming is was Trump who was to blame for the DNC folks calling out the "Taco Bowl Engagement".

Yes!! .. Chronic foot in the mouth syndrome. Opens his mouth and... Oooppss!

Aaaaand out comes the reflexive misogyny from a Trump supporter. So routine you could practically set your watch by it. 🙂

well, it's the liberal media speaking, so probably not....

They are using soundbites to destroy him, knew it was going to happen because the mass media has done it with others who were more reserved than him.

Or maybe someone like Hillary could grow a conscience, but don't hold your breath on that one.

That's what I heard 🙉

tiny..yes

Carpe: There's nothing you can say, not a thing. If a Trump supporter admired or respected me, I'd be doing something wrong. Toodles.

Oh okay Carpe. So you don't apply to the non-educated sector of his base. Must be a racist then? 😂

Yes, It's true. He's going to win the White House rather than that criminal globalist.

Dude, you can call people names or you can complain about people calling people names, but you can't do both in the same conversation and hope to come across as credible instead of either hypocritical or very confused.

@carpe. Trump runs his own business and he is very publicly a moron. Running a business doesn't really grant one intellectual bona fides. You can be intellectually unremarkable and make money if you lack principles, are born with a financial advantage, have a knack for dishonest self promotion or, as in Trumps case, possess all of these qualities.

Shrugs.. What did they say?

@Patti: You made the point earlier about the media and "sound bites" ? That works both ways. Here's the claim, and that very meme you posted---along with the facts of the case. I assume you are a fair person. Btw, neither you nor Carpediem (with his rather colorful personal attacks on me) ever answered my first question: do you think Trump has somehow been misquoted ? In spite of his tweets ?

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/

Bijoux: Defense lawyers can quit a case if they feel their client has lied or is guilty, it's happened....why ruin a 14-year old girl's reputation by saying she fantasized about being raped?

Well I can't disagree with you there Carpe...Hillary is a moron. Trump is a moron too. She's lied. Anyone that thinks Trump hasn't lied is kidding themselves. There have been tragedies much worse in our history that occurred under other Secretaries of State that never even gets mentioned...she's just victim to a world of readily available information where world news doesn't get swept into the bottom corner of page 37-G of the Tuesday newspaper. Is she the wrong person to run the country? Possibly....but she's a much much better option than the lunatic alternative.

@booboo: what "liberal" media are you referring to ?

@Bijoux... You're a fool. You list some failures of Trump's. He wouldn't have failures if he didn't engage in business. You fail to list his world class portfolio of hotels, all that he built, renovated or developed. You also fail to mention his golf clubs, and other world class properties and developments.

The strategy of the left is... successful people are bad. Lemmings like you who exist to falsely scream racism at every turn are good.

You have failed to persuade anyone, certainly not me. You did, however, succeed in proving to me that you're a fool who has zero tolerance for any view other than your own. Congratulations. You are the true racist.

Bijoux: was just referring to a link you used earlier...and i doubt any "truth" any one posts will change anything anyway...minds are already made up

@carpe. I can't say for sure but I think that Bijoux's logic is that Trump has so obviously courted white supremacists and so regularly engaged in wretched bigotry, racism and xenophobia to gin up support from angry, fearful and dissafected white men that at this point you have to be either too stupid to realize that is what he is doing or you are aware of it and tacitly ok with politically rewarding racism and divisiveness. In a sense, calling a Trump voter a moron is giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Be fair now. If you aren't Muslim, Mexican, German , French or a member of NATO there is nothing to worry about. My nuclear fallout shelter is being installed tomorrow.

Bijoux: snopes is NOT a reliable source...

http://accuracyinpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/05/snopes-got-snoped.html

It's actually a brain slug in disguise.

Lol, he was to blame...they were poking fun at his I Love Hispanics Twitter post where he was eating a Taco Bowl . You called someone mentally retarded for stating fact.

@just I'm a Trump voter. I have an MBA and run a business. I'm insulted by your depiction of me.

@Bijoux... I don't see myself as a "moron" as you have described because I am voting for Trump. And while I never saw you as one, I certainly do now for your ignorant description of essentially 1/2 of the country.

He's a leader in an alien invasion force hiding under the floor mats in my jeep.

Patti: You're saying that defense lawyers have no conscience because they sometimes defend the guilty (even though everyone is entitled to a legal defense) ? That's not rational.