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Do we really need religion in our life ???

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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Humans are religious. If you are human you have a religion. If you do not have a religion you have the IQ of a potted plant. Religion is like an opinion, everybody has one. Don't be fooled into thinking that you can avoid 'religion' by not following a major Religion. It doesn't work that way. Your religion could well be that 'there is no need for religion'.
@hippyjoe1955 Atheist's love it when you call atheism a "religion" but by one definition, atheism is a religion for many. I remember is Tucson Arizona, there were evangelical atheist passing out tracts and posting flyers , and if two people can use the legal system to offend two hundred thousand people in the name of atheism, then it is definitely a religion.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@puck61 of course atheism is a religion. A belief in God is not the only definition of a religion.
@hippyjoe1955 Many people reject the other definitions of religion because of the technicality that surfaces when you compare the words, "religious" and "religion". Atheists, technically, are religious but it can be a stretch to call 'atheism' a religion according to the English language. I believe it to be a religion because I agree with you that humans are by nature religious as spirituality is part of our threefold being. We are physical, emotional, and spiritual. There is no arguing that fact. The actions of many atheists are identical to the actions of those infected with religiosity, It's the same animal, whether it be Mao or Tomas De Torquemada .
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@puck61 According to one dictionary a religion is simply a set of strongly held beliefs. Atheists certainly have strongly held beliefs.
@hippyjoe1955 Some of them do , yes. We had two little assholes here that used the legal system to have a cross removed from a park. They didn't give a damn about the cross, they just wanted to offend as many people as possible in the name of their religion. They left soon after the cross was removed. Understandably so. 99.9% of the people within a hundred square miles wanted to throttle them. Just smug little bastards being smug little bastards.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955
Atheists certainly have strongly held beliefs

1. there's no proof that gods exist
2. there's no proof that gods don't exist
3. there's no compelling necessity to even make the postulation, and such a postulation explains nothing... it merely tries to explain everything away.
4. therefore, I have no gods... I'm an agnostic atheist

Please identify the strongly-held belief therein
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@puck61
spirituality is part of our threefold being. We are physical, emotional, and spiritual. There is no arguing that fact

Is that because of the evidence you're able to present... evidence that supports your claims?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Oh look a religious evangelical atheist wants to sound informed and logical. Bwahahahahahahahaha. Yup she has the intellectual and spiritual depth of a parking lot puddle.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 So, atheists don't have strongly held beliefs, and your term 'religious evangelical atheist' is oxymoronic

At this point you traditionally offer a selection of puerile insults before disappearing (I see you have already begun the process), so I'll let you get on with that while I wait for puck61 to respond
@newjaninev2 If a tornado passed through a parking lot and built a Lamborghini, you would call it a coincidence. That's exactly what atheists do. You take the facts, and you apply science, and it falls so far short of the truth, it is pathetic So you get angry and you use the legal system to try to offend as many people as possible. . You represent a minuscule number but you have t leave your mark by removing monuments or whatever and pissing the vast majority off. Yay! Evangelical atheists!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Completely disagree with you since you simply refuse to accept thousands of years of evidence as to the reality of God. A man came walking on the waves and you refuse to believe it. But on the other hand you believe that something came from nothing for no reason. Yeah you are extremely shallow in your thinking. Kind of sad. Did I ever mention that I have 0 respect for evangelical atheists? They are just too dense to grasp that they don't know anything and instead believe their fairy tale is true because their priest, some clown in a lab coat, says so.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@puck61 Evangelical atheists engage in what is called tautology. IOW what ever evidence there is of God is dismissed because in their religion 'there is no God'. If ever an atheist questioned their religion they would cease to be an atheist because the evidence for God is so overwhelming. The fact is they keep holding on to theories from a relatively uninformed 'scientific age' because more modern science shows just how foolish their belief system truly is.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955
in their religion 'there is no God'


1. there's no proof that gods exist (or we'd all be theists)
2. there's no proof that magical entities don't exist (they might be lurking around a mountain-top somewhere)
3. there's no compelling necessity to postulate the existence of magical entities (and the postulation explains nothing... it seeks to merely explain everything away)
4. therefore I have no gods

Can you please specify where I make the claim that 'there is no god'?


what ever evidence there is of God is dismissed

'evidence' that never ever materialises
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 There is no proof that YOU will EVER accept. There is tons of proof you simply close you eyes. plug your ears and yell LALALALALALALALALA can't hear you. As I said shallow as a parking lot puddle.

Let us do a bit of thinking. Yesterday I was driving down the road and came to a stop sign beside the railway tracks. I had two options. I could ignore the sign and run the stop sign in the belief that there is no train coming. Or I could stop and check to see if the way is clear. Which is the prudent course of action? To my mind stopping. Since it is a completely blind crossing there might be a train that I don't know about. Of course I could be like you and go roaring straight through so convinced that there is no 'proof' therefore the train doesn't exist.

Now where did I read that 'A fool says in his/her heart that there is no God'?