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✴️💬 Creating your own Groups on SW 📥

Poll - Total Votes: 358

User-Group Creation is Important to have

User-Group Creation is Not Important to have

I'm Neutral on the idea of User-Group Creation

You can only vote on one answer.

Hello all!
[b]We would like to receive feedback on your ideas and preferences for SimilarWorlds offering users the ability to [u]create their own Groups[/u]. (Sub-Groups)[/b]

[u]Please submit suggestions / ideas for[/u]:

• The [b]General Process[/b] for users to create their own Groups on SW.

• The [b]Minimum Requirements[/b] for users to have the privilege of creating their own Groups (and how many groups per user).

• [b]What Abilities[/b] should a Group owner/creator have? Should they have certain "Moderation Power" within their created group (and what exactly?)

• [b]How Necessary[/b] is it for SW users to be able to create their own groups (especially since we already have "Post Collections").

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[u]On-Topic comments[/u] here will be taken as [u]Feedback[/u] for user-created/owned Groups, but doesn't guarantee that every or most ideas will be integrated.

SW Staff do already have some ideas in mind for how this could and should be done, but we would still like to hear feedback from users, to better shape our ideas to best serve our user-base.

Off-Topic comments will be ignored (as usual). Kindly do not post off-topic comments on any posts (Admin or otherwise).
One can eventually lose the ability to interact on certain posts/groups, if they continuously break Code of Conduct.

Kind regards!
[i]-The SW Team[/i]

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ninalanyon · 61-69, T

Groups are only useful if a given post can be in multiple groups. That is: we need hashtags not groups.

Andrew · Admin

@ninalanyon
#Hashtags is a planned feature.
We agree that it is important to have.

LordShadowfire · M

@ninalanyon Ooh! Yes! This! I didn't know until this very moment that I needed this feature!

LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON · F

@Andrew Why hashtags?

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON Tagging a post (or a comment, picture, etc.) makes it easy for people to find what they are looking for. At least it can do if the search feature is implemented properly. One post can have more than one tag so that, for instance, a post that describes someone's experience as a gay man bringing up children in Ireland could be tagged:

#gay #parenting #men #Ireland

But if we use groups instead then the post can usually only be in one group. So where should it go: Gay or parenting or Ireland or men? Or you end up having hierarchical groups such as /Ireland/Gay/Men/Parenting or should it be /Men/Gay/Ireland/Parenting?

DarkHeaven ·

@ninalanyon that’s a good point. I had no idea it would allow that kind of tagging for search purposes. Cool.

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@DarkHeaven Well, we have yet to see exactly what Andrew, Nuno, and co. are actually planning. But theoretically once posts are tagged it should be possible to easily specify that you want a list of posts that have tags x, y, and z, but not p, q, and r. So if someone was interested in something widely regarded as a fetish but wants to avoid those discussing 'watersports' could specify something like:

+fetish -watersports

It could even be made interactive with a tag cloud so you could click on one tag and that would reduce the cloud to all the tags that occur together with it. Then you choose another and reduce the size of the list each time.

I think that anyone should be able to tag posts even if they are not their own because a lot of people will not bother. And of course a bit of machine learning could suggest tags once there is a reasonably large body of tags and perhaps assign tags automatically.

DarkHeaven ·

@ninalanyon that’s really cool.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@ninalanyon I agree with the tagging, yet that is not the way it will be used on this site.

They have purposely limited the search feature long ago to avoid stalking others.

Forget about machine learning (ML) except for site specific use. Such as "reputation" factors. ML currently is being used for reputation. Specifically NLU forms of AI.

No way will they allow site users to use any form of AI.

Too easy to stalk others.

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@DeWayfarer [quote]They have purposely limited the search feature long ago to avoid stalking others.[/quote]
But then they make all posts public by default which means that Google indexes them which means that most posts can still be searched by a much more powerful search facility than is provided by SW itself. So I'm not convinced that preventing stalking is really the motivation. The other option is to believe that they are too stupid to realize this which seems a bit far fetched to me.

Edit: For instance searching like this:
[quote]dewayfarer site:similarworlds.com[/quote]
on Google gives over two thousand hits.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@ninalanyon [quote]But then they make all posts public by default which means that Google indexes them which means that most posts can still be searched by a much more powerful search facility than is provided by SW itsel[/quote]

Correct! They have no choice there. In fact Google is why they were forced to restructure the groups at all.

I'm talking about on site searches only.