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I get some strange questions as a Creation Scientist, one of the foremost is 'how did the penguins get to the North Pole'. Well, far be it from me

to mock the so called 'scientists' that ask this question but penguins are birds...Guess what, they flew there.



PS. I am aware that there was no need to say 'so called' and then add inverted commas to 'scientists' but I felt that I had to emphasise the point.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
Isn't "Creation Scientist" an oxymoron?

Penguins could easily have just stayed in one place and waited as plate tectonics moved the plate over the North Pole to its current location.
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
@windinhishair How dare you call me an 'oxymoron' Sir, I will have you know that I once used to clean the windows at Oxford.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@AndysAttic I guess they get dirty in deep time.
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Yes, Mr McPhee used to make sure the windows were cleaned in that way.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@AndysAttic Did you measure the thickness of the windows? Some of the older ones will be thicker at the bottom than at the top due to the flow of glass under gravity over hundreds of years. Oxford would be a perfect place to do those measurements.
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Was this the area of your expertise? I will be honest and say it is not mine...not that I have an area of expertise. I did think that deep time was an interesting topic but I have also met (on this great interweb of ours) those that believe gravity is merely a theory...Interesting indeed. I would say that I do have something in common with Hutton and McPhee in that I come from the same county.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@AndysAttic I do have a science background and have worked on environmental issues for over 40 years. Geology, archaeology, and paleontology are side interests.

Deep time is so hard for laypeople to understand. To use your penguin example at the North Pole, you are probably aware that Penguins are almost exclusively birds of the Southern Hemisphere. Only one species in the Galapagos Islands lives (barely) north of the equator. So there are none at the North Pole. But assuming that each generation lives ten years and moves 500 feet north in their lifetime, in only a little over 1.3 million years they would be at the North Pole.
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Yes Sir I am aware. I do think your science, which has sometimes been regarded as a 'hippy science', sorry I have a small circle of friends will become the most prominent science in the coming years. If it does not, well...Penguins may well get to the North Pole but the human race will not be around to witness the phenomenon.
Ynotisay · M
@windinhishair I think this dude is just trolling but it's in a way that's sort of dicky. If not, he's just a lost puppy. The North Pole thing makes that clear. Good call on the walking part though. My understanding is penguins actually could fly. About 65 million years ago. They're also expert swimmers. Always curious why they didn't adapt to live in environments throughout the world.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@AndysAttic Penguins are not likely to reach the North Pole unless brought there by man.
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
@Ynotisay Many thanks for your psychoanalysis, it means a lot to me.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Ynotisay They do live close to the equator in the Galapagos Islands in the Pacific Ocean. Penguin ancestors go back to the dinosaur extinction at the end of the Cretaceous Period 66 million years ago.
Ynotisay · M
@windinhishair Thanks. I was aware that a different species lived farther north which is why I never really understood the lack of proliferation in other places. They're a really interesting bird. And have been around for a long time.