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yesterday I have spent all night until 5 am in the morning chatting with that guy I had a long phone call with the day before

Not healthy I know. It is such a complicated situation really.

It is very strange. We connect on soul level, but he is very rejective of me. But also not, but also is.
I am aware and not as much attracted to being treated like that, but I am staying there and most probably receiving something too.

It is his soul and his energy that I love, but his manners, his mind, is full of things to put in order. And he thinks the same thing of me.

Why was I met with that guy?

Am I to just ignore it now... let it go...

Truly I am not happy to be treated like that, with some avoidance and abandonment, his rejective qualities.

Is it a reflection of me rejecting him ? And his truthfulness allows for things to come to the surface? Showing me what the whole package includes. How much of him can I take.

But I like how he is genuine. He can hold me, I can feel it, but then he changes. I can get a better experience, but I can always get a better experience.

I remember dating a guy who had all his emotion buried and he appeared so cool and calm always but ..
I think this might be what he is thinking of me, exactly that. How I appear cool and calm but am a mess deep down.
But the truth is, I actually am cool and calm, and a mess. I am it all.

ah why am I finding myself in this situation now.

He wrote repeatedly and clearly how he doesn't want a romantic relationship with me nor now nor anytime in the future. He said, for his own sanity. He cannot grasp me, he is finding how I speak but say nothing, he is telling me that I have no reasoning and no integrity, that I change my word to fit the circumstances.
I am flexible, I contain chaos, but I am doing it well, I feel confident. I feel I have high integrity, but he's trying to shake and break me.
He said how he things I have no strength and something is lacking and I am weak to his eyes.
And I reciprocated of how I think he has excess strength.

I told him, if he sees all these and he doesn't like me, why is he there, conversing for so long.
He said because he cannot understand me, he is there trying to understand.
So I feel his soul sees me, but he doesn't.

So I either stay and do the teacher or ignore him.

But what am I gaining? Why am I staying ?
I find it interesting, it is deepening my seeing in ways, his way of openness and directness.

He has this trickster thing about him. Is it the wrong place for me, isn't it beloveds ?

Wtf is that right.

Is it clearly a trauma bond in your eyes ?

Sometimes it seems better from the outside.
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GoFish ·
I think you are both attracted to each other but have reservations against each other yet because of loneliness keep talking despite both your reservations and resentment towards each others’ choice of behaviors his judgement toward your instability and your distrust of his hot cold attitude of disdain and yet desire for you perhaps he is dishonest of his true intent but he also is demeaning instead of supportive and understanding towards you and may be toxic in the end but there is a flame there imo 😒 not sure if it should be indulged in perhaps your strength needs to be in saying no to the likes of his dishonest plays for you 😒
Boeing · 36-40
@GoFish thank you, I appreciate this.
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
I see someone who doesn't truly value you trying to tell you what your truth is.

You would be the better person to tell yourself who you are.

He will only shrink you because he sees no future in you.

It does scream trauma bond and inevitable yet prolonged agony. I don't know why sometimes we choose this. It can be used. You are wise to know that. But it is not for free and I'd hate to see any of his beliefs of you affect you, because he sounds like he's coming from a darker place where we should be focused on ourselves. It's almost as though he's spiritually lashing out.

You deserve better lovers, better teachers.
Boeing · 36-40
@ScreamingFox I do 🤍😌🩵
And I have them, they all are around me,
You for example...
My friends, my people

💜🌅
Trauma bond abort mission
Boeing · 36-40
@TryingtoLava haha thank you Lava <3
StarLily · 51-55, F
A soul is easy to love, but the person attached to soul sometimes isn't.

Truly I am not happy to be treated like that, with some avoidance and abandonment, his rejective qualities.

Is it a reflection of me rejecting him ?
No, it's a reflection of you rejecting and abandoning yourself for allowing yourself to be treated that way.

Is it clearly a trauma bond in your eyes ?
Judging by what you wrote, it potentially will be if the pattern continues for a significant time.
Strongtea · 22-25, M
I’m rubbish at advice, this situation sounds pretty complicated and potentially messy, but it does sound like it’s in some way enjoyable. I would trust your own instincts and enjoy the moments.
Boeing · 36-40
@Strongtea thank you, I try to take it one step at a time, as if each event is just one event and there is no sequence or continuity, but I try to be aware as well, as I know how choices move us
Red flags all over this . No one should be allowed to treat another like this . It's not healthy . Who knows the real reason ...why does it matter if you know it's not healthy ? You know this will not lead to anything good .
BooksRMe · 46-50, M
I would say that you deserve a heck of a lot better than what he's offering.
Boeing · 36-40
@BooksRMe you know things are different in closeness than they are from the outside, but all sides are important.

I am well yes thank you, had some glorious noodles, in coconut milk, fresh turmeric, carrots, mushrooms, chilly, black pepper. I really enjoyed that.
Now I had half fresh pineapple, so sweet and soft, deep deep yellow.

Later I am having a video call with a friend, tomorrow I have another friend visiting me.

I am creating my qigong online course slowly. Carefully crafting it.

In the morning I had a coffee and relaxed in the garden, a wonderful Sunday morning really.

I see love in people's eyes. Thank you for asking me, I am actually having quite a life...
BooksRMe · 46-50, M
@Boeing You're a sweet person, you know!! I don't want anyone to hurt you.
Boeing · 36-40
@BooksRMe thank you 🩷 I know am very sweet and living in my truth and it hurts when I do so much in order to live in it but my beloveds cannot see me 💜
Om2014 · 36-40, M
Be careful and mindful of where u get invested.
Boeing · 36-40
@Om2014 I don't know about that... It can happen when people perhaps aren't ready and decided, intenting from the beginning...
Boeing · 36-40
@Om2014 Your initial comment is making more sense now, I need to be more careful.

I thought I was careful, the situation and conversations unfolded over months and months, and we didn't proceed to physical contact. But from reflecting back to our messages, I need to be a better listener.
To not only listen to what I want, but when I listen to something that is a hint, or feels that is hiding something, then I need to ask more about that, be clear and not ignore it.
Thank you.
Om2014 · 36-40, M
@Boeing :D you have done quite some introspection. I think you are very mature to take these decisions. However why I said careful is from two perspectives, 1. For the men who get easily attached n emotional , they may get easily hurt if the conversation goes for long n later abandoned. 2 If you chat long enough and get involved emotionally only to find out u didn pay heed to the toxic traits u cnt stand but were just ignoring in the beginning to test the waters.
Hotchocolatezebra · 36-40, F
It kind of looks like he's a player and is so drawn to you but he doesn't want to play you. But then again that's an assumption.
Boeing · 36-40
@Hotchocolatezebra thank you for your insight, most probably he is, and he is drawn to me because I see something different in him and he likes that vision but doesn't know how to hold it
fun4us2b · M
Codependency...I'm familiar...

Be patient for someone that values you.

 
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