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my boyfriend is mad at me for this

idk who’s in the wrong. so he told me he’s going for a pint with his friend matt. and i said “i thought u and matt weren’t friends anymore” because matt was at a house party once, and on the way home he said “i should have raped that girl” my boyfriend fell out with him for it, so did two of his other friends.

so now clearly they’ve made up since they are going to the pub together. and after i said “i thought u and matt weren’t friends anymore” he said “we are okay now” and i replied saying “ew” and he said “what do u mean ew? i could say the same about ur friend abbie” and i said “abbie doesn’t talk about raping people” and he got mad at me and said sarcastically “im sure abbie has never made a mistake whilst drunk and said something out of order, im sure she’s such an angel” and then he said “u can leave me alone today”

idk if it’s just me but i feel like regretting not raping a girl isn’t a thing people say when drunk
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PinkMoon · 26-30, F
He isn't mad at you,he's mad at himself for being the kind of guy who is okay with a friend who expressed the desire to be a rapist. He knows exactly why you said ew because that's how he felt at first,why else would he have fallen out with him? He was angered by his own reflection because he doesn't want to own the fact that he is okay with that kind of behaviour. If the law doesn't accept being drunk as an excuse to justify a crime why should you accept it? If the law is willing to hold people accountable for what they do drunk why shouldn't we? Bringing up your friend is a red herring. A logical fallacy that mentions something that isn't relevant to the argument at hand. The conversation had nothing to do with your friend,there is no comparison to be made because he didn't mention something she did that was the moral equivalent of his friend saying he should have raped someone. It's a bad faith argument designed to manipulate you into questioning your instinct.

I'll tell you this and please heed my warning, someone's friends are the reflection of their character. If he thinks that's okay to say then he will have no problem saying it too. That's the truth of his actions. Fuck what his words say because language is easily manipulated, our actions show our beliefs.

Instead of owning his decision he tried to gaslight you into thinking you were the wrong one when he himself felt it was "ew" to begin with,AS PROVEN BY HIS ACTIONS! Why is he all of a sudden making excuses? Why is he acting like you did something wrong?

1.HE IS GASLIGHTING YOU.
2. HE THINKS THERE IS NO PROBLEM IN A MAN SAYING HE WANTS TO RAPE A WOMAN.
3. HE THINKS BEING DRUNK IS A SUFFICIENT EXCUSE FOR DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR.

4.RUN!!!!🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♂
Katiecunn12 · 18-21, F
@PinkMoon
see that’s exactly what i thought as well. being drunk doesn’t change ur morals. that’s like saying it’s okay to cheat cos i was drunk, n i know he wouldn’t stand for that. he said to me he’s been stressed out with work and all that n that’s why he reacted like that but idk
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PinkMoon · 26-30, F
@Katiecunn12 LIFE IS FUCKING STRESSFUL! Is this how he is going to act everytime he's stressed? Being stressed doesn't make you suddenly okay with rape. Being stressed doesn't make you manipulative. He's still not taking accountability. He's trying to manipulate you into feeling like a bad person for holding him accountable by victimizing himself. He's not a bad guy,he's just dealing with a lot of stress.

5. FEELING STRESSED IS A JUSTIFICATION FOR GASLIGHTING.
Katiecunn12 · 18-21, F
@PinkMoon
he said “it’s a bit rude to say ew about my friend u don’t see me say ew about abbie” and he also said “see how mad u got when i mention abbie, it’s not nice when someone talks about ur friend is it?” and i said “i got mad because u compared them, and you’ve told me how you’ve felt about abbie in the past, i haven’t reacted like this” and he said “u mention my pal first, i’ll mention urs” n then he said “i can’t be arsed with u today” and i said “okay if that’s how u feel about me expressing how i feel about ur friend then don’t talk to me ever again” and he said “ever again? so ur breaking up with me? get to fuck then”
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Katiecunn12 · 18-21, F
@PinkMoon he already has came back. that’s when he told me he’s been really stressed with everything, which i already knew. he never usually talks to me like that and is usually so sweet, and reassuring n even he says communication is key. i just don’t understand him. he said that matt is paying for his drinks, so my guess is he’s taking advantage of that cos he feels he needs a break from everything n that’s why he got so defensive. but he said he removed me cos he thought i broke up with him and he doesn’t take words like “don’t ever talk to me again” lightly
PinkMoon · 26-30, F
@Katiecunn12 Good luck with this guy.