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Who will win the War ?

Russia or Ukraine ?
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Eternity · 26-30, M
They're too close to russia to wear them down with guerilla tactics, Russia can send wave after wave after wave for as long as it may take.

They could depopulate Ukraine and replace every man woman and child with loyal Russian citizens if it comes to that.

There really is no hope for ukraine, there never was, those that don't want to live under Russian rule will have to leave or die.

I hate big governments. They are the greatest evil in this world.
Subalugirl · 22-25, F
@Eternity Hmmm....Quite True !
@Eternity Actually, Russia doesn't have enough military to occupy & hold the Ukraine (experts estimate that this would require >~ 600k troops, and that occupation is simply not feasible).

With 41 million people in non-Crimean Ukraine as of Jan., and Russia having ~143 million people, you are saying that moving 29% of the Russian population makes sense...I think that's not at all likely.
Eternity · 26-30, M
@SomeMichGuy you think putin is above genocide?

No need to occupy if the natives are all dead or displaced.
@Eternity

You said

[quote]Russia can send wave after wave after wave for as long as it may take[/quote]

They are having a hard time even getting some initial troops in. Blitzkrieg worked because it was rapid. This is more like molasses-kreig, the way it is going, and Russia has many bodies lost, too.

You also said

[quote]They could depopulate Ukraine and replace every man woman and child with loyal Russian citizens if it comes to that.[/quote]

The sheer percentage of the current Russian population required to do that makes it very unlikely.

Putin is surely capable of desiring, plotting/planning genocide...but that isn't the same as succeeding at it. He probably cannot do it himself (and before you mention nuclear weapons, consider how winds blow, etc., and that THAT *would* trigger a much stronger reaction).

He is already reaping the rewards of his overreach. May it end soon & swiftly, and with a true peace with Ukraine.
Eternity · 26-30, M
@SomeMichGuy i sure hope you're right

Russia has yet to use every weapon in their conventional arsenal.

They're still pulling punches so as to be able to keep using the excuse that this is simply a "special military operation" and not a full scale invasion.

Will Putin relent or will he double down? That is the question.
@Eternity

I hope so too

But it's unlikely that anyone outside of Russia--and damn few inside, too!--believes/believe Putin's nonsense, except for perhaps a guy in FL and his followers.

It's an invasion by starving, unpaid, unmotivated troops who don't want to be there and are deserting.

Behind them, their friends & families are starving and dealing with massive disruption to their home economy. Ahead, they have people fighting for their own cities, farms, homes, families, lives...and they are fighting tooth and nail.

It's not a good time to be in the Russian army.

And *they* all know that Putin is to blame.

So it's also not a great time to be him, finally.