Meat is causing people to be illiterate.

@DeWayfarer So, drink fish milk.

@ItsMeMorgue read the AI statement please.

BTW it's not just fish proteins that Omega fatty acids are in quantities. Omega 1, and 2 are in quantities in other proteins, which are not available in plants in quantities...


It's the whole series of omega fatty acids that are necessary. And in quantities.

@DeWayfarer Well the point of my post was meat eaters getting confused by oat milk, not omega 3 but if I have to address this.

Animals eat plants which have omega 3 like algae and then you eat the animals. Animals don't generate omega 3 lol they get it from environment. If they never got it from their environment, you wouldn't get it at all. They have to be supplemented just like b12. B12 was found in the soil but soil now is kinda toxic so we can't just pick something and eat dirt. Times changed.

It is true that seafood has omega 3 but if you're a meat eater who eats all processed or don't supplement, you might not be getting as much as you think and many aren't as health concious as you.

The point though is that meat eaters are confused when they look at a giant oat on the cover of a carton and wonder why it's called milk when they don't call their beloved dairy milk as cow t it juice.

So point still stands 🥴

If you confused despite reading the ingredients this is illiteracy

@SatanBurger I really didn't want to get into the details initially.

The Omega series are a fatty acids. Your body literally makes fatty acids. Plants make very little fatty acids.

Our body actually stores the fat for later purposes because we need those fats for later purposes.

Most proteins are used immediately. The conversion though of the carbohydrates to fat keeps the ogema series.

The problem here is that the plants make so little omega series that you are better off eating the animals. And their fats.


As a kid, I always wanted to eat the fat! And I wanted to understand why!

The 1970s was a anti animal fat culture. So darn worried about cholesterol. And refusing to understand the other fats are more important.

My sister-in-law was a vegetarian at that time. And we debated this back and forth for years while I was living with them.

I finally got her to eat liver. That took years though.

@DeWayfarer Not trying to argue but why bring up omega 3? Obviously the meat eaters who are getting confused about soy milk such as the original argument of my post aren't getting any omega 3 plus I don't relate that to critical thinking anyways since critical thinking is a self taught skill. It doesn't mean that illiterate people are dumb, it's that they don't have that "skill set" per se. That's all I'm saying.

Now in regards to your off topic stuff about omega 3, again not trying to argue but you're partially right but partially misleading:

The statement you were given is partly true but mostly misleading. Let’s break it down clearly.

1. Omega-3 and Omega-6 are fatty acids

That part is correct.
“Omega” fats refer to specific polyunsaturated fatty acids.

Examples:

Omega-3: ALA, EPA, DHA

Omega-6: Linoleic acid (LA), arachidonic acid

Your body uses them for things like:

brain function 🧠

inflammation regulation

cell membranes

2. Your body does make some fatty acids

Also true, but incomplete.

Your body can make many saturated and monounsaturated fatty acids from carbohydrates or other nutrients.

However, your body cannot make two important fatty acids:

Omega-3 ALA

Omega-6 Linoleic acid

These are called essential fatty acids, meaning you must get them from food.

3. “Plants make very little fatty acids” ❌ (false)

Plants actually produce plenty of fatty acids, especially the essential ones.

Examples:

Flaxseed – extremely high in omega-3 (ALA)

Chia seeds – high omega-3

Walnuts – omega-3 and omega-6

Soybeans – omega-3 and omega-6

Canola oil – good omega-3 source

In fact, animals get their omega fats from plants originally.
For example:

fish get omega-3 by eating algae or smaller organisms that eat algae

livestock get fatty acids from plant feed

So plants are actually the base source of most omega fats in the food chain.

4. The real summary

✔ Omega fats are fatty acids
✔ Your body can make some fatty acids
✔ But essential omega fats must come from diet
❌ Plants absolutely do produce fatty acids (often the primary source)

💡 Interesting side note: if you eat a plant-based diet, the omega-3 you usually get is ALA, which the body can convert (in small amounts) to EPA and DHA.

@DeWayfarer I also know you use chatgpt a lot, this is also what chatgpt said:

1. “Omega-3 and Omega-6 are essential fats we must get from diet”

✅ Correct.

Humans cannot synthesize:

Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) – an omega-3

Linoleic acid (LA) – an omega-6

These must come from food.

However, that does not mean they must come from animal foods.

Common plant sources include:

flaxseed

chia seeds

walnuts

soybeans

canola oil

These foods provide ALA, the essential omega-3.

2. “Animal fats are a more reliable source of omega fatty acids”

⚠ Partly misleading.

Animal foods contain EPA and DHA, which are longer-chain omega-3s.

But two important things are often left out:

1. Fish don’t make these fats themselves.
They get them from algae in the food chain.

2. Humans can convert plant ALA → EPA and DHA.
The conversion is limited but generally sufficient for most people.

Many dietetic organizations say well-planned vegan diets can meet omega needs.

Some vegans choose algae oil supplements to get direct DHA/EPA (the same source fish ultimately get).

3. “Plants produce much lower quantities of essential fats”

❌ This is simply false.

Some plants are extremely rich in omega-3.

Examples (approximate ALA per tablespoon):

Flaxseed oil: ~7 g

Chia seeds: ~5 g

Ground flaxseed: ~2 g

These are far higher than most animal foods except certain fish.

So plants absolutely do produce significant fatty acids.

4. “Carbohydrates can be converted into fats to maintain omega levels”

❌ Incorrect.

The body cannot convert carbs into omega-3 or omega-6.

It can create saturated or monounsaturated fats, but essential fatty acids must come from diet.

5. What the scientific consensus actually says

Major nutrition organizations (like the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics) state that well-planned vegan diets are nutritionally adequate, including essential fats.

Vegans typically meet omega needs by consuming:

flaxseed or flax oil

chia seeds

walnuts

soy foods

canola oil

Optionally:

algae-derived DHA/EPA supplements.

✅ Bottom line

Their post contains:

some correct basics about essential fats

misleading claims about plant sources

one incorrect statement about carb conversion

@SatanBurger quantity please. Those seeds are small. Image eating just the fat off of fatty steak. You would fill yourself up with seeds of the same amount of fat. The animal fat has more ogema series that is easily digestible.

Neither have omega 6 as well since that is only found in fish.

The point I am bringing up is there is three different categories though: proteins, carbohydrates and fats which are divided into two different areas.

As you mentioned ALA for plants which are very difficult to metabolize and in animals DHD and easy to metabolize.

@DeWayfarer Omega-6 isn’t only in fish, it’s actually abundant in plant foods like sunflower seeds, soy, and walnuts. Also a tablespoon of flax or chia already meets daily omega-3 needs, so you don’t need huge amounts. Plants are actually the original source of most omega fats in the food chain.

1 tbsp ground flaxseed, or

1 tbsp chia seeds, or

a small handful of walnuts

That’s it for the day.

Many people also get smaller amounts from foods like:

tofu

soy milk

canola oil

1 tablespoon ground flaxseed ≈ 2.3–2.5 g ALA

That equals 2300–2500 mg

So one tablespoon already gives more than the daily recommended amount.

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Several things came together that made people believe they need large amounts of omega-3 from animal foods, even if they already eat meat. It’s less about a single conspiracy and more about how nutrition science gets simplified and marketed.

1. Marketing focuses on EPA and DHA (the fish forms)

Fish and fish-oil marketing emphasizes EPA and DHA, which are the long-chain omega-3s found in fish.

Because plant foods mostly contain ALA, marketing often frames it like this:

“ALA isn’t good enough — you need EPA/DHA.”

But what usually gets left out is:

humans can convert ALA into EPA and DHA

the original source of EPA/DHA in the food chain is algae, not fish

many health organizations say ALA intake is sufficient for most people

So the messaging becomes simplified to the point of distortion.

2. Nutrition advice often gets turned into “more is better”

In the 1990s–2000s, studies linked omega-3 intake with heart health. That was real science.

But the public message became:

“Omega-3 is healthy” → true

“More omega-3 is better” → oversimplified

“You must eat lots of fish or supplements” → marketing leap

This happens with many nutrients (protein is another big example).

3. Industry groups promote foods that contain the nutrient

Industries naturally highlight nutrients their products contain.

Examples:

beef industry → protein, iron, B12

dairy industry → calcium

seafood industry → omega-3

Organizations like the National Fisheries Institute promote fish partly because of its omega-3 content.

That doesn’t mean omega-3 isn’t real — just that the messaging emphasizes their products as the solution.

4. People confuse “optimal intake” with “minimum requirement”

The actual essential omega-3 requirement (ALA) is small:

~1.1 g/day women

~1.6 g/day men

That’s why a tablespoon of flaxseed already covers it.

But many articles talk about higher “optimal” amounts, which can make it seem like you need huge quantities.

5. Fish-oil supplement marketing amplified the idea

The supplement boom also played a big role.

Once fish oil became a major supplement category, the message shifted toward:

“Everyone should take omega-3 supplements.”

But large modern reviews have found mixed evidence for major benefits in the general population.

@SatanBurger sorry I'm just going to disagree again. It's even more complicated than that.

It takes more energy to convert ALA to fats than DHA Your body can only use DHA.

Your body is not a plant. Conversion takes energy. That means more food.