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Greyjedi · M
For the world to be healthy you need a variety. Wolves, mountain lions, bears, wolverines and the like all eat carnivorous or mostly carnivorous diets and without these animals dear and livestock become sick or destroy all the vegetation on the planet. There is already evidence of this, for a long time North American wolf and raptor populations have been threatened or endangered and because of this wild versions of mad cow disease have arisen. You are right that food practices need to change, but eating animal protein is natural and needed to keep the world in balance. Agribusinesses does need to think more about the health of livestock and change unhealthy practices but “meat is important for developing muscles.
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Ferise1 · 46-50, M
@cherokeepatti so you have to kill deer so they don’t get hit by cars? 🤣😂
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@cherokeepatti Yum! ROADKILL! 😋
@Ferise1 Vegan food is so naff. A veganburger is worse for you than a regular burger because of the amount of salt, fat, sugars, oil, and other such crap they put in it just to make it taste of anything. BTW: I was vegetarian since 12 and vegan for three years. I started eating meat again about a year ago. I go to a butcher for it and the quality of the meat is outstanding.
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
@jackieash Everyone thinks vegan plant meat is “fake” & super processed but actually it’s the same process as bread! 🍞
People have been making breads & delicious plant meats for thousands of years. All you do is make flour from the wheat or pea, then use water to wash out the starch leaving the protein. Then cook the protein flour. Very simple. It’s just like making bread minus the starch, which is naturally meaty. The premade packaged plant meats are convenient but you can make it yourself with a bag of whole wheat flour or pea flour.
But even premade store bought vegan nuggets & burgers are much more simple and less processed than raising, killing, skinning, dismembering, disemboweling, and processing a sentient being’s corpse into a nugget or burger.
Plus pound-for-pound, plant meats pack more nutrients into fewer calories. They also have one thing that animal proteins completely lack: fiber. 🌱🍗🌭🍔🙂
People have been making breads & delicious plant meats for thousands of years. All you do is make flour from the wheat or pea, then use water to wash out the starch leaving the protein. Then cook the protein flour. Very simple. It’s just like making bread minus the starch, which is naturally meaty. The premade packaged plant meats are convenient but you can make it yourself with a bag of whole wheat flour or pea flour.
But even premade store bought vegan nuggets & burgers are much more simple and less processed than raising, killing, skinning, dismembering, disemboweling, and processing a sentient being’s corpse into a nugget or burger.
Plus pound-for-pound, plant meats pack more nutrients into fewer calories. They also have one thing that animal proteins completely lack: fiber. 🌱🍗🌭🍔🙂
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Ferise1 I’ve tried making veggie burgers and didn’t like the flavor. Maybe should have used chickpeas etc.
@cherokeepatti chickpeas are good in hummus. They are crap as burgers. This alleged "selfish killer" tried that and so many other stuff Ferise stated. None of them cut the mustard. They are also very expensive. And you don't feel properly fed after eating them leading to excessive snacking, etc. Since I started on meat, I've noticed the amount of snacking I've done is much reduced.
@Ferise1 You think you're getting your point across because you keep posting the same graph propaganda over and over again? Think again. It looks like you're trying (and failing) to convince yourself, because you sure ain't convincing anyone! Despite whatever you think I was a vegan for three years and looking back, those were the three years I had my poorest health. Coincidence? I think not. And don't forget, I had been vegetarian since age 12 before that. . Something that really pisses people off about vegans is that vegans have this idea that meat eaters don't know where meat comes from. I come from a small city that is surrounded by farms. So that is why I'm not addressing the "issue" of animals. It looks like you've only just made the connection yourself.
@Ferise You have not addressed the fact that we are omnivores which means we eat anything. And that includes the flesh and other byproducts of animals.
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