I bought a wall clock with Roman numerals.. Next up; learn how to read Roman numerals 🥔😚
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DrWatson · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell
In the 2017 movie "Darkest Hour", Churchill (played by Gary Oldman) is depicted as spontaneously coming up with that victory sign while talking to the press and being photographed, unaware that the manner in which he is giving it has a different meaning. The photo (perhaps the very one you provided) was printed in newspapers the next day.
So his very prim and proper, shy assistant (played by Lily James) realizes she needs to inform him. She attempts to do so, stammering and hemming and hawing, and finally the flamboyant Churchill bellows, "just come out with it!"
She gently says, "It means...up yours...Sir."
He pauses, stares at her, and then bursts out in laughter. She laughs too. And from that moment on, the ice is broken between the two of them, and they have a great professional working relationship for the rest of the movie.
In the 2017 movie "Darkest Hour", Churchill (played by Gary Oldman) is depicted as spontaneously coming up with that victory sign while talking to the press and being photographed, unaware that the manner in which he is giving it has a different meaning. The photo (perhaps the very one you provided) was printed in newspapers the next day.
So his very prim and proper, shy assistant (played by Lily James) realizes she needs to inform him. She attempts to do so, stammering and hemming and hawing, and finally the flamboyant Churchill bellows, "just come out with it!"
She gently says, "It means...up yours...Sir."
He pauses, stares at her, and then bursts out in laughter. She laughs too. And from that moment on, the ice is broken between the two of them, and they have a great professional working relationship for the rest of the movie.
DrWatson · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Yes, I would agree that Churchill's personality was such that he would not shy away from using such a gesture. On the other hand, when I have seen British people give the gesture, it is somewhat different: the two fingers together and thrust upward forcibly in an "f - u" motion. The more passively presented "open V" was apparently the version used on the Continent.
At any rate, yes, poetic license is employed quite a bit in movies. I thought it was a great scene! lol
At any rate, yes, poetic license is employed quite a bit in movies. I thought it was a great scene! lol
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@DrWatson
Maybe there are regional differences in the UK as to how close together the fingers are.
As for the upward thrust, it's possible that in the photo, Churchill had indeed made it, but without video we'll never know.
https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/up-yours-the-gesture-that-divides-america-and-the-uk/
Maybe there are regional differences in the UK as to how close together the fingers are.
As for the upward thrust, it's possible that in the photo, Churchill had indeed made it, but without video we'll never know.
https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/up-yours-the-gesture-that-divides-america-and-the-uk/