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How Does Listeria Get Into Donuts?

I know it can be found on produce such as cantaloupes, they sit on the ground as they ripen and pick up germs. But how can 2 million donuts be at risk for listeria and be recalled? I believe this is being done on purpose, industrial sabotage to the food supply.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Factories aren't always as clean as the public assumes.

Source: I briefly worked at Mrs Bairds in the 90s.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
FWIW, I just checked and listeria does not form spores when threatened.

For a bit of awareness of how bacteria behave I suggest watching some of Professor Bonnie Bassler’s TED presentations.
Good point. Who can be trusted anymore nowadays I feel......Not many tbh
4meAndyou · F
These are some of the contaminated donuts:

Cake donut rings
Raspberry-filled donuts
French crullers
Bavarian-filled donuts
Dunkin’ Donuts products, including two munchkin flavors

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/?back=1

The products were all produced before Dec. 13, 2024 and include a variety of grocery-sold pastries like multiple donut flavors, pączkis, cinnamon sticks, French crullers and apple fritters, among others.


https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/recall-alert/donuts-recalled-2025/3495195/
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Probably via dairy … cows eat the grass, where it then gets into the milk, cheese, butter, etc. Birds peck seeds in one field, then poop elsewhere. Donut shops/plants probably have some products that use dairy ingredients. Once the listeria is in the plant/kitchen, workers will find a way to transfer it to whatever else is made there’
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@Heartlander Except that donuts don't have any dairy in them. Source: I have worked at Winchell's in high school and friends with one location's head fryer for decades.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@NativePortlander1970 Thanks. I was thinking of the nearby Klrispie Kream (sp?) where you can see the donuts being made,a d where they also make cream filled pastries and other similar products, and was thinking that some used dairy ingredients. Watching the donuts and other pastries go through the hot hot oil still make me wonder how germs can survive, but the same workers may be working both ends of the production process, and maybe with cream filled pastries the cream may not be injected until after the hot oil fry, or the cream inside the pastry doesn’t get hot enough to destroy the bacteria, or maybe spores are hearty enough to survive.

Working at a donut shop in HS sounds like a dream job. :)
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Carla · 61-69, F
Do donuts really qualify as part of the food supply? I would think, if sabotage is the goal, they'd zero in on corn. Corn and it's byproducts are in everything. Or soy beans. Or wheat.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@ninalanyon Sorry this post went over your head. Move along.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@cherokeepatti It didn't go over my head. My response was simply a poor attempt at levity. Sorry.

I've seen similar reports over the years about listeria and salmonella contamination on similarly large, or worse, scales in much more central foodstuffs like chicken. It seems to be a pretty common occurrence unfortunately.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@ninalanyon A lot more common than it used to be. I got sick one time after eating a cantaloupe, an Athena melon grown in Florida. I was younger then but it hit me hard. If it happened at my age now I’d landed in the hospital. Listeria grows in soil and cantaloupe rind is the perfect vector for it. I wanted to know how it could get into processed food, donuts are deep fried or baked so that would get the germs.
Fairydust · F
💯 done on purpose but how come they don’t recall the vaccines that harmed millions. 🤦🏼‍♀🤷🏼‍♀👀


#clownworld
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Fairydust Or recalling food to remove from the food supply. Look at what’s happened to eggs and other foods. The price goes up and up.
Fairydust · F
@cherokeepatti

Yet they make millions more in profit, it’s all planned to put us in poverty.
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Confined · 56-60, M
Donuts are not good for you anyway. Just another Democrat plot to destroy the food chain like they did for covid.
MethDozer · M
Nah it's not done on purpose. It's just a result of our crappy food supply chain. All our food is dirty as hell, yes it's by design but that isn't the intention, it's by greed.

Listeria contamination of donuts is a pretty weak attack on the food supply if that was what someone wanted to do. The effort and complexity of pulling off could be focused on something else for far greater effect.
Lilnonames · F
i believe so to first mad cow no beef, then swine flu no pork,then bird fru no chicken etc... etc...
Fairydust · F
@Lilnonames

Funny how the bird flu only affects chickens that we eat lol 😜
Lilnonames · F
@Fairydust yup sad but true
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@NativePortlander1970 doubtful. I used to read crime books and there was a dermatologist who murdered his wife. He was draining cysts and boils and taking the pus out and culturing it in agar-agar gel and then bought cream-filled eclairs and injecting it in the eclair for his wife to eat. She ate it and died, the doctors couldn’t figure out how she had gotten sick. Got remarried and tried to murder his second wife by sideswiping a concrete barrier on the passenger side and was bragging to her about the time he did it how he killed his first wife. The second wife survived to tell about it.
@cherokeepatti Numerous bakery items use vegetable based products, including soy oils, which are cold pressed during processing, soybean plants are very close to the ground, I know, my uncle grew them and I walked enough mile long rows pulling weeds.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@NativePortlander1970 My uncle grew soybeans on the farm among the other crops.
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