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No to bugs. I can't get over how unappetizing they look, and it takes more living things to fill your stomach instead of fewer, so that's not even a solution to cruelty.

Lab grown meat is the exact same thing as meat from an animal. I see no reason why we should keep producing it through animal abuse if we can get it without as well.

Fake chicken nuggets from chickpeas already got to the point most people can't taste the difference, so I never buy the real ones anymore. If someone can do the same to fish, I'm here for it.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato I'm sorry, but lab grown meat is not exactly the same as meat from an animal. They take a few cells from an animal, then put those cells in a petri dish and allow them to divide and grow. You're basically growing undifferentiated muscle tissue in a dish. It doesn't even have nerve endings.

As regards the fake meats from things like soy or chickpeas, that makes it harder for diabetics who are counting every single carb to include something that tastes familiar in their meals.
@LordShadowfire it doesn't feel pain indeed. Otherwise they are the same muscles from a live animal. And how does other people having alternatives affect diabetics?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato I know how this goes, is how. It starts out as an alternative to a healthier product with fewer carbs, and becomes the more popular alternative. Eventually, the alternative I can eat becomes harder to find, because fewer people are buying it.

But hey, you go on defending the rights of undifferentiated cells.
@LordShadowfire there are enough diabetics to keep the demand high enough for real meat not to disappear entirely. And nobody mentioned rights of lab grown muscles. For someone who educates people on logical fallacies every day, I'm surprised to read that from you.

I found these in your albums. Maybe that's helpful:


LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato Ouch and noted. It just sounded to me like you were saying you had a moral problem with lab grown muscle tissue. I suppose I should have asked rather than strawmanning you.
@LordShadowfire no, not at all. I have a moral problem with abusing animals for meat if there is an alternative. (Becoming vegetarian or vegan isn't possible for everyone, so I don't object to farming meat altogether, but if there's a better way than mega stalls, we should utilize that.)
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato I 100% agree. Not only is animal abuse reprehensible, it's been proven that happy animals taste better. So you would think that these companies would adopt more humane methods of raising them, if only because their meat would be higher quality.
@LordShadowfire yep, but welcome to capitalism. Large amounts of meat of lower quality is more profitable than small amounts of high quality, so here we are.