Why are so many of you SO against veggie-based meat substitutes?

@MethDozer

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you haven;t actually tried meat substitutes to honestly make that claim.
Here's the thing, maybe most of them are shit....so what? But the 1% that aren't.

And if you're concerned about processed foods then i expect you to take that concern into all the food you buy and not just meat products.

@MethDozer As someone who actually eats meat substitutes, that's really not true. they don't always taste all that similar to meat, but they don't have to. They have their distinct taste, and they just serve a similar purpose to meat. They're something simple you can put on a sandwhich and lather in condiments.

@MethDozer You're kinda old. Have you ever tried any newer plant based meats? Or like...any ever at all? You're probably one of the many people who wanna just decide that it taste bad when you've never even tried it.

@Pikachu Have I tried all of them no. I have tried enough of them. Just as I haven't tried every single meat out there,but tried enough of them.

Sorry but the food chain just isn't a moral dilemma for me.

If plant based diets are so delicious then why try and make them taste like evil meat? K.I.S.S.

I like veggies, but I rather they just try and taste like what they are. Just like I don't want or desire a broccoli flavored sausage.

@DunDunDun Of course I have. I have plenty of vegan friends who offer its. Even some in the family who demand dinners be ruined by not allowing any meat to even touch what they eat so everything has to be bland and unsatisfying.

@MethDozer okay, just asking cause usually people who say, "OHHHH I'VE TRIED VEGAN MEAT AND IT ALWAYS TASTE BAD" are usually lying, and about the whole "food chain" thing, you can just not lol, humans have decided to remove themselves from the food chain so like, if a lion can't kill a human and humans accept it as part of the food chain, then humans should stop killing animals too

@BlueVeins There you go. Finally one who admits it is nothing at all like meat. Why can't the rest just acknowledge that it is nothing like meat and stop calling it a meat substitute?

@DunDunDun You never remove yourself from the food chain. That's impossible. Besides, I don't eat lions.


(Also, its more fun to pretend to be passionate about trivial things when really, IDC.😁)

@MethDozer Oof, that completely went over your head.

@DunDunDun No, I got your attempt at a point. I know where you were trying to go.
I just think it's flimsy and irrelevant.

I see no ethical dilemma I'm eating meat as I am meant by nature to do. I'd rather give up grains but fuck am I carb addicted junkie.

@MethDozer Rape and murder are also natural though. I imagine you have moral issues with those things.

@MethDozer Nope, you missed it completely lol, you're an idiot who lacks morals.

@DunDunDun I lake morals because I eat meat.🤣

I'm glad to be immoral in your book then.

@MethDozer


[quote]If plant based diets are so delicious then why try and make them taste like evil meat? [/quote]

lol because meat tastes good. Recall that the point of this is not killing animals.

[quote] I have tried enough of them.[/quote]

I suspect that's a lie but i'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt.
But you didn't answer me. Why not just buy the products that are good? Unless the real answer is that you just don't care about taking life?

@BlueVeins Murder is understandable and even justified sometimes. Fact.

I don't have any moral dilemma with eating meat. No, factory farming yes, eating meat no. I have the same moral dilemma over all factory farming practices be them for meat or plants as well.


I also have no ethical dilemma over trapping beaver and muskrat for warm functional winterwear either. Yet I do have a problem with fur for fashion. Sooooo....

@Pikachu I don't care about taking a life for food. Be it animal or plant life. I don't. It's how life works.

Unless you found a way to digest diet then anytime you eat you are taking life.

@Pikachu If meat taste good, eat meat. It's very good for you.

@MethDozer [quote]Murder is understandable and even justified sometimes. Fact.[/quote]

Well, in what situations is murder cool and in which is it not? I'm starting to get the sense that your moral code is based on necessity, but I'd prefer to hear you specifically confirm or decline that suspicion.

@MethDozer

[quote] It's how life works.[/quote]

I think you'd agree with me that it's worse to kill something that suffers, that feels emotion.
Or would you shoot a dog in the head as easily as you'd pluck a dandelion?
Exactly.

So why would you take the life of another feeling creature just because you like it better?

@BlueVeins Dude, if you get hosed over by someone for $20,000 and you go murk him.out of anger I don't think its right, but I understand and give you some leeway.

If you bust in to some pool boy pounding your wife on your kids bed? Then you beat the snot out of him in the heat of passion and he ends up hemorrhaging? I kinds understand.

If you go and bleed out the guy who beat your mother or rapes your sister? I don't even hold that against you.


Then we have the legal homicide instances.

@Pikachu Depends if I had reason to shoot the dog.

@MethDozer

Exactly.
Your reason for shooting the dog is that you think most non-dog substitutes aren't as good as dog.

Is that a good enough reason for you to take life?
It's not for me.

@MethDozer "If you bust in to some pool boy pounding your wife on your kids bed? Then you beat the snot out of him in the heat of passion and he ends up hemorrhaging? I kinds understand." That's really specific.

@DunDunDun Examples usually are.

@Pikachu No, my reason is the dog bit some kid.🤣