Don't you love it when you get an e-coli food recall notice about two months after you purchased the food?

@Pitchblue Yeah, but King Arthur flour is everywhere.

@4meAndyou More and more recalls for e coli. E coli lives in the intestines but now spinach has E coli. Spinach has a stomach now. The official reasoning for that is farm workers don't wash their hands enough but this was not happened a decade ago. Did the farm workers have better washroom facilities a decade ago OR does the beef industry not want you to know the spinach farm is down stream from the factory beef farm.

@Pitchblue I don't know the answer to that. But I certainly wish the FDA and the food stores would notify us a LOT faster than two months from purchase.

@4meAndyou A lot of people have to get sick first so they can make the connection.

@Pitchblue And a lot of testing probably has to follow. It makes you wonder why they notify you at all.

@Pitchblue Acceptable losses, you know? The people that is.

@Pitchblue Nice of them to keep it all so clean.

@Pitchblue I think the reality is that it was always there and perhaps even worse....we just didn't test for it and didn't know. In parts of Asia, within the past 50 years (maybe still, but for sure in Okinawa then) they used human excrement to fertilize rice paddies growing food for human consumption.
Evidently what we didn't know wasn't such a huge issue.

@4meAndyou I went to a potato chip factory once and they had a boxcar full of seasoning for Taco Chips, like Doritos, and the smell alone made me nauseous. They were going through that much seasoning in a few days.

@bowman81 I don't believe the farm worker excuse, I believe ecoli starts in the intestines and the water is polluted by beef farms where the cattle have intestines. The spinach grows in that water and is coated with that water. Do you remember what happened to Oprah when a guest talked about her reasons for being vegetarian and Oprah said she would try eating less meat. The Meat industry dragged Oprah into court and the case went on for a month just to punish her.

@Pitchblue Factories are pest holes in themselves. In Revere, Massachusetts, my former father-in-law worked for Domino Sugar. They kept an enormous sugar storage facility there...mountains of sugar.

My former father in law told us that there was no way to keep the rats out. And that the rats would poop right in the sugar. He said that every single bag of sugar sold always contained an infinitesimal amount of rat poop, and when the company did their safety testing, they were testing to make sure the rat poop was at acceptable levels...but there was always rat poop.

Apple cider is usually infested with mosquitoes and other bugs before processing, and may contain blood from the mosquitoes.

Every candy bar sold from every candy bar company contains a minimum of SIX insect legs.

@4meAndyou Acceptable levels of poop and other contaminates. There was a user on EP who was poisoned by a candy bar and I believe she sued Cadburry.

@4meAndyou I read an article decades ago about what the FDA allows in foods that they inspect, so many pieces of insect parts per a certain weight of food, mouse droppings, rodent hairs etc. Raw apple cider that hasn’t been pasteurized was found to have e-coli in it...investigation found that there were cows that had walked and pooped under apple trees and that the e-coli can seep down into the roots and travel up into the sap to the apples. Some cases of contamination of meats have been suspected to have been the result of sabotage by rival companies wanting to buy out meat plants after people die and the company name has been dragged through the mud by the media. The rival company has sent people into work in those plants and contaminated the meat with genetically-engineered germs that sicken and kill people with weaker immune systems. Then after it’s all over the plant sells for a fraction of what it was worth before and the rival company snaps it up.

@cherokeepatti The meat industry is completely controlled by under 10 companies.

Why do we trust the FDA? The people who make decisions on products can buy stock in the companies before or after they pass products. Bit of a conflict of interest there! I bet the people on the board are selling off their Perdue stock now but when Perdue was making billions on Oxycontin and thousands of people were dying they held onto their stock.