@chrisCA I am just stating the religious background of those thet signed essential documents of our government in the 18th century. That part isn’t really up for debate. It simply is.
@Pfuzylogic Right, but just as the Constitution has been amended several times and adding the phrase originally involved a change, it could also be removed, in supporting the general practice of trying to keep church and state separate.
@bijouxbroussard I actually attended a seminar in Cincinnati with Barbara Jordan on the separation of church and state. She shared the idea of separation did not include tamping the beliefs of the founding fathers but including them.
@Pfuzylogic I would’ve asked her how she felt about all of their beliefs, considering that some were unrepentant slaveowners. I think I might’ve needed that clarification.
@bijouxbroussard The lecture is actually documented on the Taft series of lectures and I actually found it a couple of years ago. She was heavily guarded since she was primarily responsible for convincing Senators that then Appellate Judge Bork would contract rather than expand rights of citizens. I think she was trying to underline to have a government that represented the thoughts and beliefs of those forming the critical documents of the country. I don’t think that even one representative claimed atheism although I do believe the Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin didn’t claim Christianity but Deism instead.
@Pfuzylogic then you don't know your history very well...it's certainly not essential and tbh most of the founding fathers were christian in name only and in todays society they would most likely be atheists... with the possible exception of John Adams... did you know that Thomas Jefferson created a version of the Bible where he took out anything that couldn't be backed by science or reason?... needless to say it becomes more of a pamphlet at that point lol