I Want a Baby

Oh? And is the highest calling of a man to make a woman pregnant and help her raise any resulting children? Or men get to have jobs, while women should just be barefoot and pregnant?

@LeopoldBloom When all is said and done what job will be standing by your bedside when you are getting ready to shuffle off this mortal coil. Who will remember that great file clerk that always smiled no matter the pain she was feeling - after she retires? Children will always want an need their parents. Your workplace can replace you before the door closes behind you.

@hippyjoe1955 I have children, but I don't consider humanity's highest calling to be reproduction. Every animal does that, it's hardly unique to humans.

@LeopoldBloom So other animals have humans? I didn't know that.

@hippyjoe1955 No, i said other animals reproduce themselves, same as humans do. So do plants and microbes, by the way.

Of course, reproduction is necessary to perpetuate the species, but the fact that humans do it doesn't make us special or make it a "higher calling." Humans have other qualities that make us unique. Reproduction is probably the [i]least[/i] unique thing we do.

@LeopoldBloom And if we don't reproduce we won't be doing those things.

@hippyjoe1955 So reproduction isn't the "highest" calling, it's a basic need, like eating, sleeping, and breathing. We have to do those things too, you know, before we can have rockets or symphonies or sit around discussing philosophy or any of the other things that only humans do.

@LeopoldBloom It is the first and highest calling. Without it everything else is pointless.

@hippyjoe1955 - there is something very beautiful and spiritual in what you say

@hippyjoe1955 It is the first but not the highest calling. If you think fucking and popping out a kid is more admirable than Beethoven writing the 5th Symphony or our sending a probe to Pluto, your values are screwed up.

@LeopoldBloom yes I do. Too bad you think otherwuse.

@hippyjoe1955 Great, so you think humans doing what every other lifeform on earth does is our "highest calling." I guess you think you deserve a medal for taking a dump this morning. We call that "number two," so does that mean defecation is humanity's second highest calling? They don't refer to it as "the call of nature" for nothing.

@LeopoldBloom so you think writing symphonies happens without birth.

@hippyjoe1955 You're confusing "basic calling" with "highest calling." Giving birth, eating, breathing, and crapping are of course fundamental and essential to anything else being accomplished.

So you think that someone whose greatest accomplishment is taking a shit every day, is equivalent to Beethoven?

@LeopoldBloom Have you ever asked a creative person where creations come from.

@hippyjoe1955 Non sequitur. Obviously someone has to be born and survive to be able to create anything. And yes, I have asked creative people how they came up with their ideas.

You just don't want to admit that your initial statement of basic activities of life are humanity's "highest calling" is wrong. Here, I'll help you. Maybe you meant that [b]raising[/b] children is our highest calling, and not just popping them out.

@LeopoldBloom You have never been present at a birth have you.

@hippyjoe1955 I was present at my son's birth, watched him come out and cut the umbilical cord. It was a very moving and profound experience that made me feel connected to humanity in a way nothing else had. Not everyone has children, but we all have parents and all of us were born. But I'm not so arrogant to think that experience was unique to me or that it was a particularly great accomplishment. Woo hoo, I knocked up my wife and she gave birth. I think writing "The Brothers Karamazov" was a greater accomplishment.

@LeopoldBloom Wow you are a bit of an empty shell of a human.

@hippyjoe1955 I do have to agree with u. Having my first born was amazing experience

@hippyjoe1955 This from the guy who thinks the highest calling of humanity is taking a good shit.