I like the way science does it.

@Emosaur [quote]If science got anything wrong it would admit so, unlike religious dumbasses that will keep believing the same debunked bullshit because they're too lazy and scared to use their brains.[/quote]

[Laughs hysterically] Oh, that's funny!

Have you ever heard of Ignaz Semmelweis? Science put him in a mental institution where he was beaten to death for suggesting science might be wrong. All they had to do is wash their fucking hands when going from the autopsy to the birthing table and they were too arrogant and stupid to do it. And the thing is, if they had followed the hygienic laws of the Bible written thousands of years earlier they would already have been doing that. Science is a fucking joke just like everything else mankind does.

And not only is your arrogant ignorance funny, but I can actually prove to you scientifically how wrong you are about the Bible and you would run away like a scared little bunny rabbit or ignore me while remaining stupid or if you could, lock me in a mental institution and have me beaten to death like ol' Ignaz.

You silly goose.


https://semmelweisreflex.com/introduction.php

@BibleData What happened to Semmelweis was terrible but doesn't really prove your point.
Scientists and societal structures in which progress and new findings were difficult and met with scepticism lead to this. Science, meaning the field itself came to adjust itself as soon as enough people engaged and verified his thesis. While the Bible might made good points regarding hygene it is still a terrible and outdated book to be guided by.

@PrincessOfHell [quote]What happened to Semmelweis was terrible but doesn't really prove your point.[/quote]

My point is that people are idiots whether they are scientists, philosophers, politicians, theologians, Christians, Jews, Satanists, Janitors, or brain surgeons. The most important step in dealing with that idiocy is recognizing it so we don't make the mistake of thinking we are in the least immune to it. Awareness of the idiocy is the foundation to knowledge.

[quote]Scientists and societal structures in which progress and new findings were difficult and met with scepticism lead to this. Science, meaning the field itself came to adjust itself as soon as enough people engaged and verified his thesis. While the Bible might made good points regarding hygene it is still a terrible and outdated book to be guided by.[/quote]

Skepticism had nothing to do with it. Science doesn't adapt or evolve, if you will, until it's forced to. Jane Goodall, for example. The Wright Brothers. Ramapithecus. Cholesterol. Fat. That isn't exclusive to science, it's human nature. We don't like being wrong about what we believe. We say we do, that's how we learn, and eventually that may be true, but it can take us a long time. Science hasn't been around long.

As for the Bible as a terrible guide if you remove the pagan influenced nonsensical theology from your perspective of the Bible with the practical acknowledgement that the Bible is mostly about how we fuck up rather than show us how not to fuck up your conclusion needs revisiting.

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@Emosaur I wish I could say the same for you as an atheist, but the competition is too much. But, anyway, I think you just do that whenever you have half an argument. When you have no argument you respond like most people here. By not responding.

@Emosaur [quote]But you're a Christian so I'm not surprised you don't see that.[/quote]

I thought I told you I'm not a Christian.

[quote] You think you can choose for me not to respond with your magical fReE wIlL lmao.[/quote]

I don't think I said anything about free will. The only one who fully has free will is Jehovah.

@Emosaur [quote]This applies to all Abrahamic theists, maybe even all theists in general, to be fair. Also again, then what are you?[/quote]

How is atheism not a form of theism?

[quote]Christians have told me we had free will.[/quote]

I've told you about them, as well, haven't I?! They also tell you there is a God. Think, man! Are you going to make what they say the premise of your argument? Might as well ask the cat.

@Emosaur [quote]You're the most ignorant "skeptic" ever, holy shit.[/quote]

NO! I won't have it! There's a fellow at Thinking atheist forums called Bucky Ball . . . .

[quote]Alright, the word theism comes from the Greek word theos, meaning god ordeity, and describes a belief in at least one theistic deity, meaning a deity or many deities of an established religion.[/quote]

Theism is the speculation of theos, or deities, atheism is the other side of the coin. You can't be atheistic without considering the theistic. Monotheistic, polytheistic, atheistic, henotheistic etc. You may not be very good at it but you are considering the theistic. Heterosexual, homosexual, asexual are all sexual proclivities. Apolitical - it's like the Rush song says: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice."

[quote]Well, as lying is a sin in Christianity I'd assume they'd at least avoid lying, [/quote]

Dumb assumptions.

Joshua 2:4-6 - And the woman [Rahab] took the two men and hid them and said thus: There came men unto me, but I wist not whence they were; and it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark that the men went out; whither the men went I wot not; pursue after them quickly, for ye shall overtake them. But she had brought them up to the roof of the house and hid them with the stalks of flax.

James 2:25 - Was not Rahab, the harlot, justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

Response: Rehab was not under any moral obligation to tell the officers of the king of Jericho the truth which would have resulted in the destruction of her and her family by the Israelites, or if found out then by the king of Jericho. She knew of the recent exploits of the Israelites in battle and she put faith in Jehovah, their God and so was declared righteous.

1 Kings 22:21-22 - And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him . . . I will go forth and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him and prevail also; go forth and do so.

Response: This is what the apostle Paul called "operation of error." It is a case of allowing those who prefer to believe in a falsehood to continue to do so. (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12) Micaiah had foretold disaster but the prophets of king Ahab didn't want to hear the truth, he wanted victory. It should be recognized that Micaiah did foretell the truth, but Ahab chose not to listen.

[quote]but either way they always end up admitting their god doesn't exist without realizing it.[/quote]

Well, they're idiots. Atheists just do the opposite, They always end up admitting their god does exist, but what does it matter if they exist or not. The Shintoists know the goddess Amaterasu doesn't exist because they invented it, but it still serves their purpose. The Christian God of occidental dominance is a transmogrification of the Biblical, but it works for them.