You, Creationist CANNOT provide superior explanations for the evidence over those which Evolution theory can provide. That's a challenge. Come at me.

@specman Evolution and abiogenesis are two different things. Evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life.

@Sharon it goes hand in hand. Who ever created something out of nothing created life too!

@specman Still different subjects. Who claims anything was created out of nothing? That's not a scientific view.

@Sharon things ultimately have to be created from nothing. otherwise nothing would have been created. Science does not cover this because there is no logical explanation. You have to determine where everything came from to have tangible evidence or you just part of a theory at best. You cant' have a plausible theory without basing it on the faith of your belief.

@specman So who or what created "god" and who or what created that?

@Sharon That is another unknown

@specman How about a quantum singularity, just a packet of energy that existed before time began?

@Sharon something would have to create the energy. Think about Nothingness is more than black emptiness. it's as if it's not there. it is hard very hard to imagine nothingness! I don't have an answer to how it was created just a belief like you a theory than man has made a theory called science and some made a belief of religion and try to explain away origin points but nobody can explain the true answer of origin. The real key to everything

@specman We have various hypotheses as to the origin of spacetime but no real theories yet. Nothingness isn't clearly defined either.

@Sharon maybe it cannot be defined. But the making something from nothing is not a hypothesis. It actually happened the proof is around us.

@specman Only if you presume "nothing" is actually nothing in the common sense of the word.

@Sharon it would have to be before something.

@specman

What makes you think that "nothing" is even a possible circumstance? Certainly we have never observed "nothing".

@Pikachu Exactly! How do you expect to find the creator of all things. The creator created created everything.

@specman Who created the creator? If it didn't need a creator, explain why a simple singularity does.

@Sharon I told you once before I do not have all the answers. As you only beliefs that can't be all the way proven.

@specman Then why complicate things by postulating an unnecessary creator?

@Sharon The creator is the beginning of all things.

@specman A simple quantum singularity then.

@Sharon nothing can produce anything

@specman Eh? A quantum singularity is not nothing.

@Sharon there has to be nothing absolutely nothing to start with.
It cannot exist without a divine creator. It is something that is unanswerable. But it would have to start with nothing at all. There has to be a day one where something was made or created out of nothing. Then there’s the question ( which I believe you already asked) who created the creator? It is a very unanswerable theory. We can only have theories cause we don’t have the answers. I am truly not being argumentative on purpose. We absolutely don’t know how it all came about.

@specman Why? Define "nothing".

Now you're contradicting yourself. You just said "there has to be nothing absolutely nothing to start with" Why does there have to be a divine creator? Why wouldn't another type do?

Maybe there never was "nothing" or, "something" is just a quantum fluctuation that will return to "nothing".

@specman That question needs to be answered if the point of the creator postulate is that the supposed creation is too complex to have come into being otherwise.