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You, Creationist CANNOT provide superior explanations for the evidence over those which Evolution theory can provide. That's a challenge. Come at me.

If you think you've got the chops to debate the evidence then enter.
If you just have a vague, faith-based misunderstanding of evolution then you are going to have a bad time.

Aggressive hook aside, if you are a creationist with genuine questions and legitimately held criticisms then i will be just so happy to discuss those with you😇✌️

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calicuz · 56-60, M
Disclaimer: I only believe in a Supreme Creator, God for lack of a better term, but I DO NOT believe in any organized religion.

If the Universe sparked into existence by chance, then how is it so complex, yet so connected at the same time?
Sharon · F
@calicuz If the universe were not as it is, it would be different. It really is that simple.
calicuz · 56-60, M
Sharon · F
@Sharon The laws of physics are our understanding of the universe as it is. A different universe would have different laws of physics or, put another way, different laws of physics would indicate a different universe.

No need to postulate a magical creator that you can't explain the origin of without ignoring the reason you postulated it.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Sharon

I understand that, but that doesn't answer the question.
Sharon · F
@calicuz What question? It answer the only question I see in the post I replied to.
If there's a magical creator being, where did it come from and why can't that explanation simply be applied to the universe instead?
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Sharon

My argument is that if it is so complicated and so connected then it must be of superior design. I also believe that "God" is in the science, the mathematics, and that science WILL discover "God."
Sharon · F
@calicuz
My argument is that if it is so complicated and so connected then it must be of superior design.
OK, so as that creator must be even more complicated, then it must be of an even more superior design, and so on ad infinitum.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Sharon

Not if the creator is Eternal and there is no time where the creator can be gauged. If the creator created time, then the creator is not subjected to that time.
The creation is subject to the Creator, the Creator is not subject to the creation.
Sharon · F
@calicuz That sounds very much like the Big Bang hypothesis. An eternal singularity expanded to create Spacetime. As time only came into existence at that point, there was no "before" the Big Bang. What can you offer to refute that hypothesis? It only differs from yours in that it doesn't assign intelligence to the singularity but your "god" didn't require an intelligent being to create it either.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Sharon

Yes, but evolution allows for there to be change for no reason, just change out of nowhere. The Universe isn't constructed that way. Everything is connected, which is why it will be traced back to the beginning.
Sharon · F
@calicuz
but evolution allows for there to be change for no reason,
Evolution is just a change in the freqeuncy of alleles. Natural selection then filters out the non-viable specimens. It's irrelevant to to origin of the universe. We know about random fluctuations, so the universe is constructed that way. In fact we even make use of randomness.

which is why it will be traced back to the beginning.
What's your point? We can trace back to the Planck Era - 10^-43 seconds after the Big Bang. We need to find a way of unifying gavity, relativity and quantum mechanics before we can start to understand what hapened in that period.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Sharon

All I believe is that science will discover The Creator. 🤷‍♂️
chibs · 61-69, M
@calicuz @calicuz
the creator is not subjected to that time

Then it must be unable to enter this universe.

Good!
Sharon · F
@calicuz
All I believe is that science will discover The Creator.
I agree but I very much doubt it will resemble anything like the christian god.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Sharon

Exactly what I've been saying. There will be no Gold, no mansions, no virgins, nothing but the creator, and unfortunately, that won't be good enough for the "religious." 😞