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robingoodfellow · M
Success for a species. Disaster for the planet.
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The planet will be fine. Disaster for other species...and in terms of evolutionary success, that doesn't matter.
The planet will be fine. Disaster for other species...and in terms of evolutionary success, that doesn't matter.
robingoodfellow · M
@Pikachu yes actually it does matter. There is a balance to all life on earth. Man, through his dominance untempered by wisdom, puts things out of balance. And by doing that he risks his own extinction. We're seeing pollinators disappearing at an alarming rate due to pesticides and loss of environment. If that continues then you see a decrease in food production to feed the ever growing population. That's just one example of how it matters.
Whether the planet will be fine or not... well we won't be around to know how that story ends. But we now know Mars had water and an atmosphere at one time and its' story didn't end so well, obviously. Although we don't know exactly why yet.
Whether the planet will be fine or not... well we won't be around to know how that story ends. But we now know Mars had water and an atmosphere at one time and its' story didn't end so well, obviously. Although we don't know exactly why yet.
@robingoodfellow
The only evolutionary test we have yet to pass is longevity and we'll see how that goes. But in evolutionary terms it does not matter what other species suffer as long as ours continues to thrive. And so far it is.
Sucess!
The only evolutionary test we have yet to pass is longevity and we'll see how that goes. But in evolutionary terms it does not matter what other species suffer as long as ours continues to thrive. And so far it is.
Sucess!
robingoodfellow · M
@Pikachu that is some serious hubris.
robingoodfellow · M
@Pikachu i do understand your point about humans being an evolutionary success. But I don't see the way we've brought about our success, particularly the last 200 years, as anything to celebrate.
Yes, I see looking with pride at wiping out other species as hubris. It's more than just survival of the fittest. We're supposed to be thinking creatures. We have the ability to look at what we're doing and understand not only the tragedy of of it, but how it affects ourselves down the road.
The dinosaurs were here for how long?
And man has been here for how long?
I know you know the answers. Do you look at the state of the world now and man and think he'll compare to the dinosaur timeline?
Evolutionary success, yes. But too destructive to keep it going.
Yes, I see looking with pride at wiping out other species as hubris. It's more than just survival of the fittest. We're supposed to be thinking creatures. We have the ability to look at what we're doing and understand not only the tragedy of of it, but how it affects ourselves down the road.
The dinosaurs were here for how long?
And man has been here for how long?
I know you know the answers. Do you look at the state of the world now and man and think he'll compare to the dinosaur timeline?
Evolutionary success, yes. But too destructive to keep it going.
@robingoodfellow
Well to be clear, i'm taking no moral or ethical stance on the manner in which we've achieved revolutionary success, only pointing out that we are indeed remarkably successful.
And it's not quite fair to compare us to dinosaurs. We're just a single species after all.
Well to be clear, i'm taking no moral or ethical stance on the manner in which we've achieved revolutionary success, only pointing out that we are indeed remarkably successful.
And it's not quite fair to compare us to dinosaurs. We're just a single species after all.