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I Accept the Theory of Evolution

In a female mammal there is a pair of tubes along which eggs travel from the ovaries to the uterus. These are called the Fallopian Tubes (salpinges). Sometimes when a human egg is ejected from an ovary it does not make it into the fallopian tube. This is because, quite oddly, the fallopian tube is not actually connected to the ovary. Rather, the opening of the fallopian tube envelops the ovary, like a too-large garden hose resting on a too-small spigot. The two are not actually attached, and sometimes an egg gets squirted out of the ovary and into the abdominal cavity instead of into the fallopian tube.

When this happens, it is usually of no consequence. The egg simply dies after a few days and is resorbed by the peritoneum, the thin wall of highly vascular tissue surrounding the abdominal cavity. No problem.

However, if an egg falls into the abdominal cavity and sperm arrives within a day or so, it might find this egg and fertilise it. The resulting embryo, completely unaware of how far it is from home, begins the process of growth, division, and tunnelling into whatever nearby tissue that it can find, usually the peritoneum but occasionally the outer covering of the large or small intestine, liver, or spleen. This is called an abdominal pregnancy

Abdominal pregnancies pose serious risks. In developing countries, they usually result in the death of the mother. In developed countries, they are easily spotted with ultrasounds and treated with surgical intervention to remove the doomed embryo and repair any damaged tissue or bleeding.

Despite creationists’ laughable claims of an ‘intelligent designer’, abdominal pregnancies are 100% the result of unintelligent design. Any reasonable plumber would have attached the fallopian tube to the ovary, thereby preventing tragic and often fatal mishaps. An ‘intelligent designer’ would never have created the small gap between the human ovary and Fallopian tube, so that an egg must cross this gap before it can travel through the tube and implant in the uterus.

In reality, the gap is a remnant of our fish and reptilian ancestors, who shed eggs directly from the ovary to the outside of their bodies. The Fallopian tube is an imperfect connection because it evolved later as an add-on in mammals.
I know this is an old post but I'd like to pose another theory... Our designer was a dick. I mean let's face it, even in evolution, this doesn't make sense to have a potentially fatal risk of the ovary and the tube not connecting. Do scientists have any clue why they don't just connect? The issue with evolution is it always creates more questions than it ever answers. I firmly believe in it but I fully understand why people choose not to lol
@newjaninev2 Science based around the illogical is like religion based around the unfaithful. As nice as the notion of a world of complete chaos, I feel science shows there is always a pattern, a law, a rule. I'd like to think evolution also has these things. But I'm also aware that we are limited in this field by what we can actually test and observe. Changes that can take thousands or even millions of years don't really help when trying to do tests in your life time. But hopefully one day it all becomes more apparent why things occur. And although it makes a lot more sense just saying "designer" because then any 'mistake' for lack of a better word could be chalked up to a shitty design, I think we will eventually work out the logic behind every step in our evolutionary makeup.
@Sharon I briefly mention it in some of the other clients I've made in this thread but I don't think saying only might change in the future is a very good point to make. For a start, humans probably won't be around in a million years. Homo Sapiens definitely won't. It's nice to think we will live forever but statistics show otherwise haha

See my issue is with the other arrangements. Assuming other arrangements all popped up, why did the one that has a gap between the tube and the ovary beat out one wear it connects. Seems like a failure to pass on good genetics. You might say there may have never been a human with connected ovaries and tubes but what does the science say? What firm evidence do we have about the evolution of the human reproductive system? Can we make that call? Genuinely would like to know lol
Sharon · F
@Qwerty14 [quote] I don't think saying only might change in the future is a very good point to make. For a start, humans probably won't be around in a million years.[/quote]
There are likely to be many changes over that period so specimens without that gap probably won't be recognizable as homo sapiens.

[quote]Assuming other arrangements all popped up, why did the one that has a gap between the tube and the ovary beat out one wear it connects.[/quote]
Possibly because one without a gap never popped up. Science observes and records, it doesn't dictate.

[quote]What firm evidence do we have about the evolution of the human reproductive system? [/quote]
I'll leave that for @newjaninev2, it's more her field. I'm just a physicist.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Ha! I nearly always learn something new when i read what newjaninev2 has to say.
Awesome.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Sharon It depends on which way one’s interests lie

hard and fast = physics

soft and slow = biology
Sharon · F
@newjaninev2 I knew there was a reason I preferred the former. ;)
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Sharon Hmm... I wonder how that translates into our personal lives
Montanaman · M
Explain the human brain, compared to all other's on this planet?
Why hasn't any other forms of life evolved their brains like human beings. Why are we the only life form on earth that can do what we do with our brains?
I believe evolution and creationism co-exist.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Montanaman We are the dominant species, no other species will get a chance to evolve our kind of intelligence unless we deliberately foster it.

Mutations survive if they improve the likelihood of the organism breeding in the environment in which it exists. All other forms of life on this planet now exist in an environment in which we are an important factor.

And it seems that you are assuming that evolution has a goal. It doesn't; it is merely the differential survival of individuals who happen to be better fitted to their environment which then go on to breed more individuals like themselves. In a sense we are machines built by genes for the propagation of genes. See the Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins but don't get caught out by the use of the word selfish, it is not intended to imply either foresight or consciousness.
Montanaman · M
@ninalanyon 🤔👍👍
Ingwe · F
the travel time of the ovum coincides with the life span of the sperm

all planned out perfectly

the ovulation the tickling of the fimbriae and the setting of the stage
was planned
the fimbrae ovarica
is attached to the ovary.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Ingwe [quote]all planned out perfectly[/quote]

It’s an artefact of sex and death, and you’re mistaking the artefact for some sort of intended outcome.

Individuals with a closer convergence of travel times are more likely to successfully replicate than those with less synchronised times. Even if the differences are blindingly minuscule, then [i]over time[/i] the synchronised group will prevail.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
My issue with evolution. Why did it stop if it's real..🙂
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@newjaninev2 Terra. It's.not Earth. That's the White Man's name. The world was 100% water before the creation. Then came the land and animals. 🙂
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Zonuss Terra being Latin for Earth...

I’m not sure what a White Man is...
Sharon · F
@Zonuss [quote]is only at best 6,000 years old[/quote]
What verifiable evidence have you to support that assertion?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Hmmmmmmm.🙂
pratluck · 36-40, M
Sharon · F
@Kwek00 [quote] gamble on believing in God [/quote]
His gamble is to exclusively believe in one particular god, thereby potentially really pissing off all the others.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Sharon Why even bring other Gods into the mix. According to christianity, people can be saved if they accept Gods' truths and the morality of his teachings. You have to accept that Jesus died for our sins. This acceptance, isn't a gamble you can take. It has to be a conviction. You have to believe it's true and not have doubt.

Presenting this as a "choice" that you can "gamble" on, is not the same thing as believing something is real. The fact that you treat it as a choice that you can gamble on alone, goes against the idea of acception of this reality as being real because you consider the other answer as a possibility but you only choose to accept christianity because the gains are higher. If this is your reasoning, and the final judgement of the omnipotent all knowning being knows you took a gamble instead of actually believing in something... then, if it's consistent, it should judge you accordingly. Not as a faithfull servant that accepted Gods' truth, but as a gambler that submitted only to reap higher stakes.

This idea, often called too as "Pascal's Wager" is kinda ridiculous in my opinion.
Sharon · F
@Kwek00 [quote]This idea, often called too as "Pascal's Wager" is kinda ridiculous in my opinion.[/quote]
My point was simply to show the futility of Pascal's Wager and how it's actually counter productive.
Allelse · 36-40, M
Oh yeah, nature's motto ought to be "Yeah that'll do". Which is why all that divine creation gibberish is a load of crap. Considering all the faults with our biology. I mean we have cells that go barmy and decide to turn into rouge agents!! Start up their own organisations!! Which we know as cancer.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Allelse [quote]rouge agents![/quote]

Red Brigades?

:-)
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Pretty crazy when you think about it. Of course I always thought there was some advantage to this. The lumen of the Fallopian Tubes are actually on the outside of the body. As paradoxical as that seems, the lumen of the tubes, as is the uterus and vagina, are in contact with the outside world.

The gap between the ovaries and Fallopian Tubes serves to help isolate the ovaries from the outside world.

I have never been taught this but this idea did occur to me when studying anatomy, physiology, reproduction and histology.

But I also know that your comparative biology is right on the money.
redredred · M
In addition, the human spine evolved from a spine that was originally oriented horizontally as most quadrupeds are. Human walk upright and its clear that our spine has adapted to bipedalism but not perfectly.

It is obviously an adaptation and not an intelligent design.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 You have no idea what a property is or how it came to be. And you think I am begging the question.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 I’m not talking about properties as such, I’m talking about [i]emergent[/i] properties... despite your desperation not to do so.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 Too funny!!!! You can't get the first one started but you think that somehow there are emergent properties. Now that is funny!!!! Don't let the contrail slap your butt on the way to Saturn. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
OzDiver · 61-69, M
That was a very informative post. Thank you for sharing. 🙂
Carazaa · F
Thank you for this interesting educational post 🙂
I think God made us perfect but because of the sin in the garden of Eden God cursed the humans, animals, and creation! There are many problems with the world! Mostly because of our sin and hate, but one day we will have the perfect world in eternity again! I believe! Ofcourse there are many similarities between animals and humans. But God told us that only humans are made in his image! We have a soul that will live forever if we love Him.

I know it sounds silly to you but I have seen so many miracles. One was when my Dad died. God woke him up for just me I believe. He was unconscious for weeks and the minute I got to sweden and entered the room God woke him up. And he held my hand the whole 5 days I was there! He was not expected to recover and no one woke him up those days. God heard my prayers that time too! My sister was there many days but she doesn't walk with God and he was the same unconscious with her as all the rest of the family. I am the only one who prayed he would know I am visiting and he woke up! I know as I know that God hears my prayers and I pray that he will save you too!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa [quote]similarities between animals and humans[/quote]

Humans [i]are[/i] animals
navigatorTR · 41-45, M
I am not certain about evolution but i always seek for scientific truth. what i really dont like is comparing evolution and religions. its just doing magazine work i think :)
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@navigatorTR Yes, it’s an unnecessary exercise.

Evolution is well-established.

Religion is a series of unsupported claims

Although creationists like to pretend there’s a dichotomy, there’s isn't, because science doesn’t care about religion. Religion is dismayed by science because it highlights the disparities between religion’s claims and reality

 
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