@bookerdana To G K Chesterton"s opinion, I thik it is very relevant.

@22Michelle chesterton on the pilgrims

G.K. Chesterton's view on the
Mayflower Pilgrims was critical of the romanticized American "myth" surrounding them, arguing they were intolerant Puritans who sought to establish a strict theocracy. He notably quipped that while Americans celebrate the Pilgrims' arrival, the English should celebrate their departure.
Chesterton's Core Arguments

Intolerance as Motivation: Chesterton contended that the Pilgrims were not fleeing persecution, but rather were themselves intolerant. They felt the Church of England under the Stuarts had not gone far enough in removing elements of Catholicism, and they departed England to create a society even more strictly aligned with their own radical Puritan beliefs.
Rejection of the "Myth": In his 1921 work, The Myth of the "Mayflower", Chesterton aimed to separate historical fact from the popular fiction that had grown around the story. He viewed the celebration of the Pilgrims as part of a historical narrative that valued commercial expansion and a narrow form of patriotism over a true understanding of the past.
A "Condescending" View of Progress: Chesterton mocked the "condescending view" of some historians (like Macaulay) who suggested that the religious motivation of the Pilgrims was merely a primitive foreshadowing of the more "enlightened" motivations of commercial travelers and the desire for financial gain.
Puritan Character: He linked the Pilgrims' Puritanism to the Salem witch trials, observing that the Puritans "lost their belief in priests but kept their belief in witches". He characterized their movement as a reaction against the Renaissance, a "barbaric thing" driven by fierce, mysterious emotion.
"Democracy of the Dead": While critical of the Mayflower Pilgrims' specific historical actions and legacy, Chesterton generally advocated for a historical humility that listens to "the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors," to gain wisdom and avoid "chronological snobbery".

In essence, Chesterton challenged the idea that the Pilgrims were the founders of American religious freedom, arguing instead that their legacy was one of narrow-minded zealotry and intolerance. His writings on the subject offer a critical, often paradoxical, perspective designed to provoke readers into re-examining accepted national narratives.

I merely used a quote,man😏

@DrWatson Cruel but funny at the same time.😛

@Nimbus

British wit can be quite biting.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Thanks for the update ;)

@Nimbus I made lemon curd once and gave it to a friend of my husband who was British I also made homemade crumpets for him, he said they were good

@Justmeraeagain Sounds good :)
Just don't ever use Marmite :)

@Nimbus I never tried that ,but I did try Vegemite once -once was enough

@AbbeyRhode Praise be! :)

@4meAndyou It comes to something when the Tories are the last bastion! ;)

@Nimbus
Indeed! Who would have guessed? 🤭

@MasterLee Russia helped quite a bit with that too

@Nimbus Yorkshire Gold

@V00doo Aye up lass! ;)

@V00doo @Nimbus Tetley Extra Strong.