Happy no more pride month for another year July, everyone.

@ViciDraco why is it people want me to ignore one form of child abuse and focus on another? If i see any child abuse, i will call that shit out.

@Torsten Because there are so few incidents of child abuse from the LGBT community. Because you fixate on building hate and distrust for a group of people based on false accusation and personal discomfort rather than actual abuses.

You are not hating someone in order to protect the children. You are claiming to protect the children to rationalize your hate.

It's not healthy for society. It's not healthy for children. It's not healthy for you.

@Torsten what child abuse are you confronting here?

@MethDozer

@Torsten The first photo is of a nudist organization participating in a pride event. If every trans and gay person disappeared tomorrow they would still be there. But it also speaks to what I was saying.

The nudist organization is not engaging in anything sexual or abusive. Honestly, if anything is damaging kids it's the societal aversion to non-sexual nudity. We are born without clothing. There is nothing immoral about being nude. Being nude does not mean sex.

As far as kink belongs at pride, I'd need to see examples of what people view as too sexual. A kinky leather outfit is not the same as exposing kids to sex. If it were, we need to start suing advertisers for showing women suggesting orgasm from shampoo commercials and having half naked men pitching body wash on TV.

@ViciDraco indecent exposure to minors is a crime yet those people get a free pass?
its child abuse

@Torsten I get that the whole kink scene at Pride festivals is a bit(being generous here) distasteful. Yet at the same time it's a tad disingenuous to say they are exposing themselves to minors as if they are running up to them and whipping their dick out at kids like it's the intention.


It's more akin to bringing your kids to a nudist resort or a naked bike hike. Like I think it's weird and wouldn't bring them to such, but it's sort of a leap to equate it to child sexual abuse/exposure.
I would also argue with @ViciDraco that kink scene isn't inherently sexual.
There's a discussion here on appropriateness here for sure but to make the immediate leap that this child sexual abuse is a bit much.


Just for the record I do find the whole public kink scene and nude thing at problematic and distasteful.

@MethDozer they know kids will be there yet still do all of that. Make all the excuses you want for them, they should be held accountable.
its a crime any other time. Why do these people get a free pass?

exposing yourself to a minor is as far as i am concerned, child abuse. This is not at some closed off nudist colony. Its in public at a public event. There is no excuses for it and that is just one example that photo.
There is videos of old men in their underwear twerking and shit in front of children and a lot more disgusting disturbing acts of again what i consider child abuse.
Another one off the top of my head that i seen was a child drag queen who was on stage dancing sexually for adults while they throw money at him.
How can anyone possibly defend these things?

@Torsten Do you feel the same about nude bike/hikes or expose the nipple protests? I personally don't.



Again I find the certain aspects distasteful and don't really understand or beleive they are important to be there. Yet I wouldn't call it child abuse because they aren't explicitly exposing themselves to children. Same if my kid were to see a naked person through their fence on their property. Now if they waited for my kid to be looking it would be different.

@MethDozer when children are involved, absolutely

again it is indecent exposure to minors. People have ended up on sex offender lists for such things. Why is it okay within that community?

I have said it many times and will keep saying it. Pride events are now all about acting your perversions out in public.
Its been like that for a while now but these last few years have become so much worse because children are now involved.

they do all that and go on chanting in public, they're coming for children.
its going to end with people getting very seriously hurt soon enough. Mark my words. Involve children in adult perversions and you anger the majority of people and soon enough people will revolt against it and put a stop to it

@Torsten Depends on the town and city. Some allow and tolerate the nudity. Some don't. But at the ends of the day the only people exposing children to it, are the parents bringing them to the event at the nude and kink areas.



Like I said, I wouldn't attend anything with a child I knew such weirdness was a part of it. Personally I don't get why innsome areas they feel it's important to include that stuff, but I don't feel the urge to paint the entire demographic either.


Don't bring your kids around kinknand nude community events. Gay or straight.

@MethDozer yes those parents are hugely to blame but so are the people there acting their kinks and depravity out in public knowing full well that children will be there.
Again there is no excuse for it and everyone should be held accountable.
I dont give a shit about that community, sorry to say. i care about children though and have a big soft spot for them and no adult should ever expose them to this type of shit

the same people defending this with pride are the same people that keep bring up abuse in churches and so on. They try and claim they are against child abuse but yet will defend it when it involves their people.
nah i dont buy it one bit.

Much respect to those in that community though who are absolutely against this and i know there a fair few