Still trying to figure out the rationale behind America's Independence Day celebration.
Always reminded me of the unruly teenager who escaped to college and then spent the rest of her life celebrating the day she moved out of her parent's house.
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ViciDraco · 41-45, M
Getting England to give up and say "fine, do what you want" was a huge deal at the time. It's not like they just let us go. This wasn't something just anyone did back then.
Now, you can say maybe we'd have been better off if we didn't. And it is ironic that we are now guilty of the same imperialism we decried. But the accomplishment of breaking away was very significant.
Now, you can say maybe we'd have been better off if we didn't. And it is ironic that we are now guilty of the same imperialism we decried. But the accomplishment of breaking away was very significant.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@ViciDraco It's also not as if England tried all that hard to hold the original colonies. We were a bit busy, with bigger fish to fry in Europe and India.
I'm of the opinion that independence wouldn't have been all that long coming even without the War of Independence. Had it been delayed until 1833 (Slavery Abolition Act 1833.) you might have been spared a lot of the damage that slavery caused and skipped the Civil War.
Just perhaps of course; one can never tell what an alternate history might have turne out like in the long run.
I'm of the opinion that independence wouldn't have been all that long coming even without the War of Independence. Had it been delayed until 1833 (Slavery Abolition Act 1833.) you might have been spared a lot of the damage that slavery caused and skipped the Civil War.
Just perhaps of course; one can never tell what an alternate history might have turne out like in the long run.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@ninalanyon They didn't fight like it was existential to them, but 50K soldiers back then wasn't anything to sneeze at. England has a long history so it's easy for them to downplay this loss, but it was significant.
Given where history has taken us, I'm not going to argue there may have been benefits if it never happened.
Given where history has taken us, I'm not going to argue there may have been benefits if it never happened.