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How many people in the one cave?

During much of the Stone Age over in Europe there was nothing much else than ice and virgin forestry. People were hunters and gatherings that were moving place to place. I've always wondered about that. How about if their journey wasn't that lineair each year?

How about that those stone age people actually rather going to the South of France in the winter and returning back to Denmark in the summer? How much privacy would they have then in those caves? How big a group was there necessary to provide all the necessities on the hoof? Plenty of questions that I'm posing this afternoon. Lets have a look if we can answer those.

During the European stone age most groups that utilized caves or rock shelters were small, mobile bands. Scientists generally estimate group sizes based on resource availability and social needs. Those were primarily small bands of twenty or thirty adults and children. Lets go through this. Women at the time have birth on average to about five to six children of which only two or three survived to adulthood.

The earliest hunter-gatherers in Europe had fewer kids, spacing births further apart due to the need to move frequently and keeping family sizes small. Morever, hunter-gatherer mothers had to carry infants, encouraging longer spacing between births, often up to 4 years. Stone age people were physically similar to modern humans but generally more robust, with powerful muscles due to a physically demanding, active hunter-gatherer lifestyle.

Average life expectancy then stayed low (often 20–35 years) due to high infant mortality, but adults who did survive childhood could live into their forties or older, with some reaching their sixties. Lets do the maths now. If the group is twenty in total then the composition could have been two couples of grandparents with four more couples bringing up eight infants. Am I right?

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Building underground cities takes knowledge, planning and a cooperative culture. In Iran and North Korea they're capable. Not in the West.
val70 · 56-60
@Roundandroundwego I'm talking about pre-historic time. How big were the groups of people?
@val70 I think archaeologists disagree on the numbers and extent of underground habitation for neanderthals and stone age modern humans. I assume the civilizations of the past were as sophisticated as our own.
As Zionists you erased that info to make my past disappear.
val70 · 56-60
@Roundandroundwego No Zionist here though. Plus no civilizations either in stone age times
@val70 that's impossible. Someone built gobekli tepi. And others.
val70 · 56-60
@Roundandroundwego Where is their writing, where is their art, where are their stories told? There's much more needed than what there is there to actually say that it's a true civilization according to my belief. Sorry!
@val70 sounds like you're not going down that rabbit hole and your extensive references prove your head is in the sand firmly. This must be the only civilization! Fact! Lik that.
val70 · 56-60
@Roundandroundwego Okido. Move along then. I bet you haven't studied it too long
@val70 stunningly logical refutation. I'm so sorry it's not a personal subject. There's plenty more nor to know about ancient and pre history than you can deny here! And I'm not the topic. Of course you think in a certain way, Where we're the absolute pinnacle of civilization, the first; that's a tenet of true believers. Nothing in the rocks can shake such thoughts!
val70 · 56-60
@Roundandroundwego Try Google Scholar and read one of reference books mentioned there :)
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