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kodiac · 22-25, M
Don't cry and whine when the retaliation comes . How many innocent Ukrainians will die .The people of Ukraine don't want this war .
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@kodiac No dude, Russia invaded, Ukraine is defending itself from an existential treat. And don't tell me that the country with 10x the military capacity of the other + nukes was existentially threatened first because it's at best laughable.
Also Ukraine had elections consistently before the war and they were suspended (according to their constitution - as, you know, you can't guarantee a credible result while missiles are raining on civilians) only during. Same thing that happened in the UK during WW2, and I've never heard anyone sane of mind calling Churchill a dictator.
Russia on the other hand hasn't had a fair election since at least 2000. If you're so concerned about democracy maybe book a flight and go to the red square to protest against Putin regime, otherwise spare us from having to read this hot pile of hypocritical and nonsensical garbage.
And Russia can't wipe anyone off the map without getting wiped out too. Hence why it isn't happening.
Also Ukraine had elections consistently before the war and they were suspended (according to their constitution - as, you know, you can't guarantee a credible result while missiles are raining on civilians) only during. Same thing that happened in the UK during WW2, and I've never heard anyone sane of mind calling Churchill a dictator.
Russia on the other hand hasn't had a fair election since at least 2000. If you're so concerned about democracy maybe book a flight and go to the red square to protest against Putin regime, otherwise spare us from having to read this hot pile of hypocritical and nonsensical garbage.
And Russia can't wipe anyone off the map without getting wiped out too. Hence why it isn't happening.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@Elessar Short history lesson way back in the 90s an agreement was reached i think it's when the Berlin wall came down . Europe and the u s agreed nato wouldn't move anything military closer to Russia..Yet ever since nato has pushed closer and closer until they got to Ukraine which is on russias doorstep. So it was Europe and former u s administrators that forced Russia's hand .i don't agree with what Russia did but nato and Europe caused this and as usual they cried to the u s to protect them . Nato broke the agreement not Russia
Elessar · 26-30, M
@kodiac No dude, it's Russia that keeps expanding west that makes more and more countries voluntarily join NATO. See Finland and Sweden recently.
There's absolutely no agreement stating that countries in eastern Europe are precluded from joining the alliance. The only agreement that was broken was the Budapest memorandum, by Russia.
Ukraine itself (as well as Finland and Sweden) wouldn't be nor consider being in the alliance if it wasn't for Russia's terroristic behavior.
There's absolutely no agreement stating that countries in eastern Europe are precluded from joining the alliance. The only agreement that was broken was the Budapest memorandum, by Russia.
Ukraine itself (as well as Finland and Sweden) wouldn't be nor consider being in the alliance if it wasn't for Russia's terroristic behavior.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@kodiac I'll admit when I will be, not when a minus habens from the other side of the planet that probably couldn't point at Ukraine/Russia on the map (or you wouldn't bring up the dumb "expansion" point) reiterates some long debunked Kremlin talking point.
If NATO wanted to glass Moscow it wouldn't need Ukraine. Look on Google Maps where Moscow and Petersburg are lol. So what's the "expansion" for, according to you?
If NATO wanted to glass Moscow it wouldn't need Ukraine. Look on Google Maps where Moscow and Petersburg are lol. So what's the "expansion" for, according to you?
So what countries has Russia taken over?
Let's see.. Georgia, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria, Chechnya, Dagestan, Syria?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@kodiac A statement of fact, not an insult. Someone who reiterates the dumbest propaganda and doesn't have the critical thinking skills to stop and check if what they're saying at least makes any sense before outing it perfectly fits the definition above (heck, just google it, as it's been settled for years to the point that perhaps even the Kremlin itself no longer goes on about this alleged "NATO expansion" at this point lmao). If you prefer a Russian term over the Latin one, try «Vatnik».
The fact is, it's you who stopped replying once I've pointed out the fallacies of your argument and literally answered your question.
The fact is, it's you who stopped replying once I've pointed out the fallacies of your argument and literally answered your question.