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BohemianBabe · M
All religion is oppressive. Look at Christian Nationalism in America.
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Peaceandnamaste · 26-30, F
@BohemianBabe which native American tribe did this? Not all native American tribes did this, the Hopi are the most peaceful native American the word "Hopi" means peace
Peaceandnamaste · 26-30, F
@BohemianBabe So did Europeans too.
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I've never quite figured out "antisemitic" since:
1. Not all Jews are of Semitic background
2. Arabs are a Semitic people
1. Not all Jews are of Semitic background
2. Arabs are a Semitic people
@ChipmunkErnie it's a word that was invented in the era of the rise of eugenics in Europe. It was meant as a good thing, like eugenics.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@EarthlingWise Found this: '“Antisemitism” came about (in its Germanic form) in the mid-nineteenth century. In 1860, an Austrian Jewish scholar, Moritz Steinschneider, introduced the term antisemitische vorurteile (anti-Semitic prejudices). He used the expression in a piece he wrote countering the ideas of French philosopher Ernest Renan, who claimed that the Semitic race was inferior to the Aryan race.
The term antisemitism was made common by Wilhelm Marr, a German publicist and agitator. Unfortunately, his 1879 pamphlet, “The Way to Victory of Germanism over Judaism,” in which he used the term Antisemitismus, was very popular. That same year, Marr founded the League of Antisemites. It is interesting to note that Marr’s first three wives (he was married four times) were all of Jewish lineage and that, in 1891, he published an essay titled “Testament of an Antisemite,” apologizing for his mistaken antisemitic notions.'
The term antisemitism was made common by Wilhelm Marr, a German publicist and agitator. Unfortunately, his 1879 pamphlet, “The Way to Victory of Germanism over Judaism,” in which he used the term Antisemitismus, was very popular. That same year, Marr founded the League of Antisemites. It is interesting to note that Marr’s first three wives (he was married four times) were all of Jewish lineage and that, in 1891, he published an essay titled “Testament of an Antisemite,” apologizing for his mistaken antisemitic notions.'
@ChipmunkErnie very interesting, I only had a vague notion of it.
Dshhh · M
I think few recall, the primary stance of Islam includes,
the conversion of all people everywhere
and i have learned of many new arrivals,
whose behavior, seems not to be considerate of the generosity of those
in the countries they now inhabit
the conversion of all people everywhere
and i have learned of many new arrivals,
whose behavior, seems not to be considerate of the generosity of those
in the countries they now inhabit
bijouxbroussard · F
@Dshhh Those Christian missionaries weren’t exactly leaving indigenous people alone when they showed up, either.
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thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M
I'm afraid I think this obfuscates the real geopolitical issues going on, and unfortunately makes wedges where groups of people will never understand each other. Europe, and America, were not giving to the Jews after WWII while making a pretense of fighting HItler. They pretty much did the same thing with less bloodshed. They set up again the current conflict, so I don't think seeing the wrongs of the past, and the bloodshed in Palestine as being wrong makes me misogynist, but if it does, I'm okay with saying I'm still okay with saying what is amounting to genocide as wrong.
That makes 2 questions, really.
First question: no, you can be a Christian fundamentalist and be antisemitic.
Second question: yes, but it doesn't mean you have to follow the Islamic ideology to be opposed to women's rights.
First question: no, you can be a Christian fundamentalist and be antisemitic.
Second question: yes, but it doesn't mean you have to follow the Islamic ideology to be opposed to women's rights.
bijouxbroussard · F
Most organized religions have at least a history of being oppressive towards women. So to be part of any of the Abrahamic faiths is to be involved with an organization that has supported misogyny. (edited)
This is not to say that other categories of religions aren’t guilty of this as well.
This is not to say that other categories of religions aren’t guilty of this as well.
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard I don’t agree that your second sentence follows from the first. And this is an issue I care about A LOT. Many religious denominations, including large ones, still have this issue. But others have evolved. I think it would be hard to argue that, say, Reform Judaism or the UCC (formerly Congregational) are in any way misogynistic in present times.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Harmonium1923 That was why I said they at least have that history (what’s a ghet ?). Perhaps the second sentence was hyperbolic, and I apologize; I do know that there are female rabbis now, and some Christian denominations allow women as heads.
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard I fully agree with respect to history, and in many cases—sadly—in the present day. But there are exceptions.
Fentonisfree · 51-55, MVIP
Jews scared to go out.
Jews being refused service
Signs on people home’s businesses
Just like the early 30s in German
Jews being refused service
Signs on people home’s businesses
Just like the early 30s in German
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
Not necessarily but it sure is popular in that group.
hdiddle · 26-30, M
why would it?
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