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U.K. Government Abandons Plan to Cut Rate of Income Tax for Top Earners

U.K. Chancellor of the Exchequer scrapped Truss's key economic policy, following the slide in the UK currency's value, turmoil in the country's financial markets, and the threat of large scale rebellion within Truss's party.

Will this be known as the Truss Doctrine? Release a new economic policy on a weekly basis, and see if it sticks?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
They are sticking with most of the plan but yes, this was an embarrassing u-turn, as we call it.

The pound is still at a low level, the economy generally is struggling and a fresh round of major austerity is heading our way.

In a political sense, Truss still has a lot of problems because her credibility has been badly damaged. She climbed down only after realising that she probably wouldn't get the policy through Parliament, a quite shocking state of affairs given Tory MPs have a big majority.

I think it's unlikely she will last two years until the next general election. Tory backbench MPs now know they can overturn her policies and the party itself is divided. The cost of living crisis here is getting worse and I just don't see how Truss can recover.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Yes, that was very much what the Cameron govt was like. The Truss regime ignores those reports because they believe that the free market will always deliver eventually.
@Burnley123 Yikes. Those almost mystical aspects of American hyper capitalist mentality is not something I am used to seeing outside a niche south of our border.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It's very much like the Republicans
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I don't know why the tax paid by the highest paid is judged really so important, or perhaps significant. (Provided they are not doing anything illegal such as tax-evasion, of course.) The income from them would be tiny, in the grand scheme of things - the higher the income the fewer the people affected.

Besides, even if some of such people can afford expensive accountants and off-shore accounts, they still pay a lot of indirect tax in this country as the VAT and Council Tax on their much more flamboyant private expenditure.

What will matter instead is how the Government deals with the problems of the overall national and international economic situation; and how well they deal with them. That is not easy, and I do not pretend to know the best approaches to these. I doubt many of us here know, but destructive criticism is oh so easy and oh so pointless.

I do think though, that mere jealously of anyone on some stratospheric wage - whether a merchant-bank director or a First Division star ball-kicker - won't solve anything.

What worries me more seriously is this idea, from Labour as well as Conservative politicians, that somehow we need "attract overseas investors". When are they going to wake up to what that means, every time another British company and its trading profits vanishes abroad to the so-called, American-sounding, "inward investors"; i.e. the money-traders in America, the Middle East or the People's Republic of China?


Ye Gods - having alluded to it, its genuine supporters even narrowly fought off a bunch of spivs in the USA wanting to destroy our country's national sport's league structure, just to make money from its ruins!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Northwest Oh,, sorry!

Yes, I understand your point now.

I can see no-one in the USA would benefit from such a yacht purchase and registration, Presumably though he would still pay the builders for the boat itself, which is effectively an export from Holland wherever kept?

I don't know why the port of registration should affect the VAT on purchase though. It must be something to do with Holland's own tax system.

I think VAT was an EU invention - or concoction - but it is up to individual states to set their own rates and exemptions.
damselfly · 100+, F
Northwest · M
@ArishMell VAT is not the same thing as our sales tax in the US. There is a minimum sales tax set by the state, and each city gets to add to it, using rates set by local elections. If I buy a product from a different state, and have it shipped to me, and the company I buy it from does not have a presence in my state, then I don't pay a sales tax.

My state borders Oregon, so if I go to dinner in Oregon, no sales tax is added to my check.

Things like groceries, milk, etc. do not have sales tax added.

When I'm in Europe, I get to have my VAT refunded at the airport (though they don't make it easy), because I don't live in Europe, and some stores handle it in store.
PSuss1 · 56-60, M
She's beyond incompetent and really not very bright, but was elected by an extremely small minority of the UK (81k votes vs 60k). Only paid up members of the Conservative party were allowed to vote, mostly old, rich, white, upper class (and an unknown number registered from abroad, just to add to the ridiculousness 🙄).

The main reason they chose her was that they were angry their poster-boy, Boris, got drummed out (for being lazy, corrupt, incompetent and, final straw, supporting a serial sex offender in office) and they blamed her main rival, Rishi Sunak who resigned to spark the revolt.

She supports an extreme firm of neo-liberalism (low tax, extreme deregulation, profits over people, Charter cities, small state...) that the vast majority of the UK (and even her own party!) would find abhorrent if they took the time to understand what it would really mean for them and their families. The policies she is trying to introduce are nothing like the manifesto the Conservative party stood for election on in 2019, so she has no mandate.

Under Conservative leadership rules she in theory can't be ousted for a year after selection but if MPs fail to support her policies in Parliamentary votes she'll be left with no real option but to step down.

Either way, we're fucked for the foreseeable 🤷‍♂️

See you on the other side (hopefully).
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PSuss1 Sad but true. I can't really add to this.
Chrisy3 · 18-21, F
For someone so new to that position, Liz Truss seems to be globally known as an idiot already!! I’m not really into politics, but all I ever hear is people laughing about how useless she is.
It’s undergoing a drastic change….hoping for recovery from past losses. No harm in waddling arms and legs if you wish to float, I’d say..
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
It reminds me of a Monty Python "upper class twits" skit.
SW-User
Does seem that way huh? Dumb idea to begin with
damselfly · 100+, F
Probably.

 
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