We may need to rejoin the European Union 🇪🇺

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Has he considered that if Truss can't deliver on the benefits of Leave, that may be because there aren't any benefits? (Apart from being able to move the signs in the Dartford Tunnel, as the sole benefit identified by our Minister for Brexit Opportunities)
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I hate to be the one to say it but the U.K simply can't take any more migrants as it doesn't have the infrastructure to accommodate poor people. While houses are being built, only a select few are affordable to people. Most of these properties are built for prospective home owners so they can't be used to house migrants, or even working-class British people. It amazes me how people on the Left simply refuse to recognize this problem because it's a VERY real problem. If the U.K rejoins the E.U, they will have an increased responsibility to provide homes that they aren't willing to provide to migrants. Due to this lack of willingness, they will put migrants where someone who has lived in this country for longer could or otherwise would have lived. Of course the U.K could build homes for poor people but it won't because that is what this country is...it's capitalist and in the past 10-15 years has become more capitalist. This problem will not be resolved by rejoining the E.U as it will just make it worse for the working-class. I don't think it would even make a difference to the cost of living as once prices go up, they stay up. The only thing it could achieve is making it easier for people to get out of this shitty country.

Also, I should conclude this post by noting that it's not right to ignore a democratic vote. Regardless of whether they were promised things that wouldn't happen or not...most people who voted in the referendum voted to leave, even if by a small margin. We are told lies by political candidates all the time and they go back on promises and fail to deliver yet we don't get to vote again until the next election *unless* they do something very bad, and then it will just be another person from their Party leading. Every political campaign features lies and false hope so this is not unique to Brexit.

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@SW-User Firstly, you do realise that net immigration is actually [i]higher[/i] than it's ever been at the moment, driven almost entirely by non-EU arrivals. No one seems to be complaining.

Secondly, the UK did not vote to leave the single market, it voted to leave the EU. The government decided this. If the UK had a relationship much like Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland etc, where they would enjoy the benefits of the single market, things would not be half as bad as they are now.

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@SW-User Where did I say that the U.K voted to leave the single market? 😆

Net migration has decreased, lol. Migration from non E.U countries may be somewhat high but there has been a decline overall.

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@SW-User [quote]Also, I should conclude this post by noting that it's not right to ignore a democratic vote. Regardless of whether they were promised things that wouldn't happen or not...most people who voted in the referendum voted to leave, even if by a small margin[/quote] And I said that people voted to leave the EU. They were not asked about the Single Market. The UK could have remained in the Single Market and still left the EU. But the government didn't want this.

[quote]Net migration has decreased, lol. Migration from non E.U countries may be somewhat high but there has been a decline overall.[/quote]

No it hasn't; it's increased

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/immigration-has-increased-since-brexit-admits-tory-mp/ar-AA10Fu0X

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@SW-User Okie, and? You don't have a point...in case you aren't aware.

That's wrong. I suggest you read this: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/net-migration

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@SW-User My point was that the British people only wanted to leave the EU. They did not want to leave the single market. The two are not mutually exclusive. Therefore, I think the British people will accept re-entering the single market with the resultant free movement of people as an acceptable trade-off. Reduced trading barriers, being able to live and work in the EU, but not actually a part of it.

And wrong:

According to the estimates by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), net migration from overseas to the UK in the year ending March 2020 totalled 313,000 - the highest in four years and approaching the all-time record of 331,000 in the year to March 2015.
Total long-term immigration by those of all citizenships (715,000), and total immigration by non-UK citizens (633,000) [b]were both at the highest levels ever recorded.[/b]
Net migration to the UK from outside the EU nearly tripled since the year to March 2013 (when it was 106,000) to its highest level ever - 316,000.
Net migration to the UK from the EU has fallen, from 219,000 in the year to March 2015, to 58,000 in the most recent year.
There was a net departure of 61,000 British citizens to other countries.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-net-migration-statistics

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@SW-User Uh, no lol. Even Norway, which isn't in the E.U, has to accept many of its rules and regulations due to being in the single market. A "soft" Brexit was never going to be a realistic option IF the U.K was to pursue its goal of controlling migration from the E.U and dispensing with all E.U laws that it didn't want. A considerable number of British people would have liked to have remained in the single market, but not at the expense of controlling European migration. Most Brexiters who led the campaign to leave also wanted to exit the single market because they knew it would be counterproductive to stay in it. Again, Norway *is* partially subject to E.U rules.

We should establish that the U.K only officially left the European Union in 2020 so time will tell as to what the true impact of leaving will be on net migration. The stats I have, however, all say there has been a steady decline in overall net migration. Stats indicate that migration from non-E.U countries has risen somewhat but that [b][u]net migration[/u][/b] has still decreased. To that extent you really don't have an argument, especially when you consider my original point...which is that if the U.K did rejoin the E.U migration from Europe would increase and so there would be a greater need to provide homes for people when there is already a housing crisis. This is incredibly simple to understand so perhaps you could explain to me why you find it so difficult to grasp?