I Am European

After the unfortunate burning of Notre Dame Cathedral, these two thoughts have come to my mind.

1- The structure has survived really high temperatures. Medieval architects were really, really good. They took time to do their work. They were aimed with a purpose. Notre Dame did not collapse. Twin Towers did. Progress? 🤔

2- Even if we accept the accidental hypothesis, who were probably the workers doing the restoration? Cheap labour with zero concern or affection for the art and the symbolic meaning of the stones they were working with, people with no connection to Christianity at all, people for whom working at Notre Dame or at an office block would mean the same, just means of earning their chunk of bread.

Unrestrained capitalism, caring only about profit, lack of religiouness or a purpose in life beyond the material stuff have destroyed Notre Dame. Modernity has destroyed Notre Dame.

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zeeva70 · F

Twin Towers were soaked with jet fuel along with major structural damage so its collapse was inevitable.

Cierzo · M

@zeeva70 Their height and shape surely had something to do with their collapse, and they are modern traits.

zeeva70 · F

@Cierzo Here's food for thought from the Pilots from 9/11 Truth Forum:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10505

LiteralElite · 31-35, F

@Cierzo Of course, medieval spires collapsed too and not infrequently. I know that happened to the old St Paul's cathedral in London. I recall reading something happened to the tower at Durham cathedral when I visited (and another I visited in Europe, which was then rebuilt, but I can't remember remember offhand which). And I'm sure on smaller scales in many churches.

And yet, and yet...the underlying point [i]still remains[/i]. Back then it wasn't a lack of care, just bad luck or an inexperienced engineer

Sssslm · F

@Cierzo the use of steel structures in skyscrapers allow buildings to reach unprecedented heights, but the 911 plane crashes caused fire which melted the steel structure, and the building services / fire services devices that normally operate to rescue in case of fire were damaged in such rare accident.

There are pros and cons for each technique and material.

LiteralElite · 31-35, F

@Sssslm In the TT's case it was how the steel was used (as a shell with big open plan floors) that was half the problem. There's a reason why skyscrapers are not built like they were now. They make a building flexible and strong....until they get damaged

Cierzo · M

@Sssslm I really wonder the purpose of reaching such heights. I just can see vanity.

zeeva70 · F

@Cierzo The limited availability of land for new development in densely populated urban spaces is the purpose of skyscrappers. It is what it is.

Cierzo · M

@zeeva70 Personally, the fact that we think it is normal that millions of people live in an area where there is no space to build proper houses instead of vertical beehives, is evidence that humanity has not progressed at all.