People still think climate change is a hoax?

Alright, the world has existed for millions of years and humans have lived on it for millennia also. But the drastic changes happening in the natural world around us is alarming.

How do these deniers not see it?

What d'yall think? Is the whole climate change debate a bogeyman unleashed for I don't know what reasons.

Or is it something real that we all are responsible for?

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Heartlander · 80-89, M

Deniers isn't the right word. Try "distrusters" instead. We are the people who have learned to take what politicians, whether elected or nor, with a grain of salt. Our degree of distrust seems t go along with how insistent they are about what they say. The more insistent the more likely it's hot air. Also, look at who benefits from the path they are trying to redirect us to, and who suffers. And finally, the personal wealth accumulated by politicians over the course of their office suggest that what they say may be but a sales pitch to add to their own wealth.

From a practical standpoint, I don't believe they have accounted for all the variables that affect the earth we live on and seriously doubt that they can accurately compare today's earth with the earth of 25 years ago, or 100 years ago. There are so many lies they have backed away from that they first start with a conclusion, then try to make up a credible reason to support the conclusion. Like they tried to pass coastal areas sinking for sea level rising. Then it was icebergs melting, then it was thermal expansion.

Just think about it. The same government that was convinced that Solyndra was a wise place for the US government to fork over a half-billion dollars in taxpayers' money is the same government that insists that global warming cause by humans in America is established science.

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F

@Heartlander Scepticism of those in authority is always healthy. However, the climate change science does not come directly from government but from professionals working at the cutting edge of their fields of knowledge. When opinons change, this is not necessarily lying, but the way science works when it is done properly (although its findings can sometimes be misunderstood or misrepresented by interested politicians).

JimboSaturn · 51-55, M

@Heartlander It took a long time for our politicians to take notice of climate change, they didn't want to believe it either because their fossil fuel lobby is huge.

Heartlander · 80-89, M

@SunshineGirl Climate change scientist are paid by the government in one way or another; and scientists are rewarded for what they say for the same reasons why Solyndra was so heavily rewarded. Look around at who is benefited by US energy policy: China. China's coal fired industries are filling the US need for renewable energy.

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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F

@Heartlander Most high level science in the UK is directly or indirectly funded by the taxpayer. There are parliamentary checks and balances to ensure that public money is spent prudently. The government of the day can influence where money is directed, but to suggest that climate change is a manufactured consensus is simply untrue. Our current government is luke warm at best on climate change, but this does not stop some of the leading climate change science being produced in the UK. Scientists are highly educated people with ethical codes of their own. Their work would have no standing in the international community if they were known to have been bribed.

JimboSaturn · 51-55, M

@SunshineGirl Great response.

JimboSaturn · 51-55, M

@Heartlander If you want to follow the money, wouldn't the trillion dollar a year fossil fuel industry and the powerful nation states that support it have more influence than research grants? The whole world economy is dependent of fossil fuels; would the powers that be try everything they can to deny climate change? I think your are getting mixed up who has the power here.