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A picture for the AGW crowd. Make of it what you will.

With a scale from 20 to 80 F, it's not so easy to see the 1.5 degree increase. How about if we take the same data, average each year, and plot:


Oh, look, there's been a 1.5 degree increase in the yearly average! And all we did to clarify the increase was to change the plotting parameters a little bit.

@hippyjoe1955 says
[quote]The chart I posted is way too short to draw any conclusions but here you want to shorten that even more.[/quote]
Ah, so you want data covering a longer time? How about seven ice ages, spanning 800,000 years?

The climate data comes from bubbles in glacial ice, and is corroborated by data from sea floor sediments.
CO2 & methane & temp data


Here's [i]where[/i] the various data sets were collected:


The most salient thing about the 800,000 years of climate data is the rate of change during those previous 7 ice ages compared to the current rate of change this century. Let's zoom in on the most recent ten centuries:


Wow, that CO2 is really out of this world, isn't it??
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Phoenix What do you think all the limestone is made of? [b]CO2[/b] The CO2 levels in the cretaceous period was about 6000 ppm. It is now around 400 ppm. What happened to all the CO2? The corals etc turned it into limestone. If you don't know that then there is no hope for you and your silly theories.
@hippyjoe1955 Kinda funny to see a guy who so recently assured me the Earth is only 6000 years old now casually refer to a period 140 million years ago. What happened to the 7 day creation, dude??
[quote]Finding stalactites and stalagmites in caves and thinking that that is a measure of how old the cave is is silly if you don't know what the cave looked like when it started. Assuming that the cave was 'caused' by erosion or whatever is also nonsense if you accept the FACT that God created the cave. The plants and animals etc were full grown when they were created.[/quote]

Back to the cretaceous period. Were were sea levels in the cretaceous period? They were high enough to drown all of our sea level cities! Your whole argument here is a giant straw man fallacy where you pretend your opponents are saying high CO2 will kill life. That's just false.

High C02 will flood our cities. That's the disaster we're trying to forestall. And I've explained this to you many times, but you just keep on launching your same old straw man fallacy. [b]SAD!!![/b]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Stange how you put words in my mouth. Go back on the other thread and find out where I said how old the world was.
Budwick · 70-79, M
Hmmm, Well there doesn't seem to be a link between CO2 and Climate.
But, the invention of carbonated water came along and became popular in about those same times and proportions. Let's blame Coca Cola!
Phoenix · 36-40, M
@Budwick https://cires.colorado.edu/outreach/resources/lesson/how-does-increase-co2-cause-increase-temperature

You ever been inside a greenhouse on a sunny day?
Bye niw.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Phoenix [quote]You ever been inside a greenhouse on a sunny day?[/quote]

Yes, I have. It's hotter than a Mo Fo in there.
That has nothing to do with CO2 either. [Or carbonated water]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Phoenix What is different about a greenhouse than the air surrounding it? GLASS! The air inside the greenhouse can not escape. BTW CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse operators use CO2 generators to increase the level of CO2 since the plants in the greenhouse have used all the CO2 that is naturally there. They don't use it to heat the greenhouse though. Plants need CO2 for food.
With a scale from 20 to 80 F, it's not so easy to see the 1.5 degree increase. How about if we take the same data, average each year, and plot:



Oh, look, there's been a 1.5 degree increase in the yearly average! And all we did was change the plotting parameters a little bit.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues The chart I posted is way too short to draw any conclusions but here you want to shorten that even more. Now why would that be???? You and science are truly complete strangers.
@hippyjoe1955 says
[quote]The chart I posted is way too short to draw any conclusions but here you want to shorten that even more.[/quote]
DUUUDE!!! Your etch-a-sketch runs from 1895 to 2011. The data I posted runs from 1860 to 2020. Maybe you should [i]read[/i] your chart first, because my data runs LONGER than yours, LOL!!!
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
Interesting graph
BohemianBoo · 18-21, M
Actual gold weight?

 
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