Doubts about climate change?

@redredred Maybe the 42 will be right?

@MrBrownstone I’m sure you’re right

@redredred So unexpected flooding doesn't count as a climate disaster? Unusually long droughts etc?

@GeniUs is there such a thing as expected flooding?

@redredred stop trying to lay down a strawman and maybe answer the question or do I need to do that?

@GeniUs Define unexepected. Has there been floods in the past? If so then no flood could be unexpected. Have there been droughts in the past? If so then no drought can be unexpected. Natural phenomena are just natural. An occurrence is not proof of causation.

@hippyjoe1955 So you 2 clowns are saying if it's happened before it's not a disaster? I suppose it comes down to what the meme decides a 'climate disaster' is but we've all seen the TV most countries are getting more and more problems and these are down to climate change.
here's something I just happened to catch, after the initial article it goes on to talk about record temperatures. But you don't care as it doesn't fit your narrative.
[media=https://youtu.be/RyLXDmNcJiE]

@GeniUs So you don't understand "NATURAL OCCURRENCE". Very strange. Believe it or not mankind can not prevent all disasters all the time nor is mankind responsible for all disasters all the time. Sometimes it rains and sometimes it doesn't. It has been that way for millions of years.

@GeniUs weather is the very model of change. There was once a mile and a half of ice over what is now Central Park. Was the warming that melted that good or bad? What is the correct temperature of the earth? Is it magically the temperature that prevailed the day Al Gore was born?

Please, please don’t bore me by telling me that climate isn’t weather or weather isn’t climate. We both know that’s just a distinction without a difference.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]So you don't understand "NATURAL OCCURRENCE". Very strange. [/quote]
Of course I do, stop making false assumptions about people.
[quote]Believe it or not mankind can not prevent all disasters all the time [/quote] Of course they can't nobody suggested that.
[quote]nor is mankind responsible for all disasters all the time. [/quote] Finally you agree that mankind is responsible for some of the disasters in the world. I would suggest most and I would put climate change (which is causing disasters) into that category.
[quote]Sometimes it rains and sometimes it doesn't. It has been that way for millions of years.[/quote] Finally a statement of yours I can agree with.

@redredred I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Humanity will last longer if we don't promote the changes in temperature that are being caused by the production of green house gases, gases which can be managed if people cared more about survival and less about having a number representing their worth attributed to their name.

@GeniUs bullshit. Human activity and it’s resultant CO2 have almost zero impact on climate. It’s like emptying the ashtrays on a cruise ship.

@GeniUs Can you tell me what would be the ideal temperature we should be aiming for? Serious question. If we don't have a goal there no way we can measure if we are getting close or not.

@redredred Such an ignorant comment it doesn't need any further response.

@hippyjoe1955 Thank you for asking a sensible question; I would say that what we have now works so that should be the level that the world should be trying to maintain the level at for now. If experts (not me or you and especially not somebody making money out of any situation involved) investigated this there would probably be a more ideal environment (not just temperature but rainfall levels etc) and again the world should be working to move to that situation in a controlled way.

@GeniUs The silly part in all of this is the idea what we can somehow control the weather. We can't. It is weather. Sometimes hot sometimes cold but always changing. The sad part is that our computer models the 'experts' came up with can't predict the past. IOW they are a complete bust and the experts are not very expert at anything other than running a con.

@GeniUs Because you haven’t got one. You swallowed the whole human caused warming crap without once considering it’s just a propaganda tool to assert control. Wake up, the evidence is out there.

@hippyjoe1955 Do you understand how greenhouse gases work? It's what causes the heat to rise and the variations from the norm of the weather.

@redredred Greenhouse gases are a simple concept and factual, as is the failing ozone layer caused by CFCs.

@GeniUs All complex questions have simple, easy to understand , obvious answers that are invariably wrong. CO2, like phosphorous, is a limiting factor in plant growth. Add more CO2 to the atmosphere and you get enhanced plant growth. The very tiny amount recorded as additional over the past fifty years is negligible and humans are not the only entity adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

@redredred hmm almost a reasonable argument except CO2 isn't the only green house gas I could transfer the data but this site is a way more believable source than I am:
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/greenhouse-gases#:~:text=From%201990%20to%202019%2C%20the,alone%20increased%20by%2036%20percent.
TLDR; Your previous statement is wrong.

@GeniUs All of my statement are correct. Perhaps you can explain why not a single disaster prediction has come true. We were supposed to have an ice-free Arctic by 1990. Did that happen? There were 5000 polar bears on earth the day I was born, there are 35,000 today. What happened? Has the sea level risen? No.

@redredred Perhaps the predictions have not come true because humans altered their behavior as a result?

@redredred Ok where are the predictions that you talk about not coming true, were they serious, were they exaggerated?

@GeniUs Start here,

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/