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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Can't run a dependable energy grid on unicorn farts and sunbeams
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@iamthe99 Not dependably - solar power systems provide ZERO 'intertia' for grid stablisation under varying loads, require enormous land area to be feasible, and then there is a massive waste and recycling problem down the line. Solar is great as a *grid prop* but not as a baseload source. If there's a sudden load change and the grid frequency starts to rise or fall, solar can't adapt. Neither can windfarms, and wind is worse as it doesn't work if the wind isn't blowing, or if the wind is blowing too hard (the turbines have to be forcibly shut down which requres enormous braking systems).
BlueGreenGrey · M
@zonavar68 I don't remember, are you from Australia?
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@BlueGreenGrey Yes. Any solar 'farms' take up land that could be used for agricultural purposes, and both wind and solar require massive 'sub-grids' just to interconnect them to the existing electricity grid. The view that solar and wind are 'green energy' is completely loony!
Hydro-electric is the closest thing to 'green power' and Australia's had that since the 1950's. We've never had (and might never have) nuclear power stations. We export 100x more coal than we keep for our own energy security.
Hydro-electric is the closest thing to 'green power' and Australia's had that since the 1950's. We've never had (and might never have) nuclear power stations. We export 100x more coal than we keep for our own energy security.
BlueGreenGrey · M
@zonavar68 I thought you were. Well your very own country has some lessons for the world regarding grid-scale batteries. That's all you need to overcome intermittent issues.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/no-batteries-no-flexibility-spain-could-have-avoided-blackout-with-lessons-learned-in-south-australia/
Moreover, a iceland already uses 100% renewable energy. Going completely to 100% renewables is already feasible even before nuclear fusion is solved. Moreover land-based utility-scale solar farms are not the only way to implement solar, rooftop solar is a significant factor as is solar over artificial reservoirs and canals, and agrivoltaic installations over agricultural areas like vineyards in roussillon in the southwest of France are already happening, which also cools the vines with the shade.
Besides solar, wind (utility-scale or otherwise), and geothermal you also have wave and tidal energy options. And wind turbines do not occupy that much area on agricltural plots.
We could already transition to 100% renewables now if the fossil lobby and its rightwing government enablers weren't tryign everyhing they can to stymie this. Renewables are already competitive in price now.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/no-batteries-no-flexibility-spain-could-have-avoided-blackout-with-lessons-learned-in-south-australia/
Moreover, a iceland already uses 100% renewable energy. Going completely to 100% renewables is already feasible even before nuclear fusion is solved. Moreover land-based utility-scale solar farms are not the only way to implement solar, rooftop solar is a significant factor as is solar over artificial reservoirs and canals, and agrivoltaic installations over agricultural areas like vineyards in roussillon in the southwest of France are already happening, which also cools the vines with the shade.
Besides solar, wind (utility-scale or otherwise), and geothermal you also have wave and tidal energy options. And wind turbines do not occupy that much area on agricltural plots.
We could already transition to 100% renewables now if the fossil lobby and its rightwing government enablers weren't tryign everyhing they can to stymie this. Renewables are already competitive in price now.