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So the great solution to electricity grid shortcomings is now 'virtual power plants' and EV's as 'grid batteries'

This is where a group of properties in the same grid segment all have solar and battery storage and feed this power back to the grid during peak demand times, to offset the primary grid sources being up shit creek trying to cope with the insane push to net zero and everyone having an electric car.

Depending where you are in the world, various governments have created targets of between 2030 and 2050 to get between 50 and 100 percent full uptake of EV's.

In the same breath, the zealots also want people who own EV's to be able to use them as a 'battery' to feed the grid...

You heard that right...

Why would anyone want to allow their Cult of Electric Jesus net-zero planet-saving EV to become a 'battery' for a 'virtual power plant'?

You don't allow other people to steal the petrol or diesel fuel from your existing vehicle, so why would you let someone else steal the electricity from your EV's battery that you already used to 'fuel up' the vehicle?

Is the law going to require people who continue to own petrol or diesel vehicles to permit random strangers to steal fuel from the tanks?

This is the stupid bullshit EV zealots are pushing here. Remember EV's like rooftop solar are very much a 'haves' vs 'have nots' thing now - if you do not have solar and/or an EV you are a sub-standard citizen.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
There is nothing new in the idea.

When roof-top solar panels became practicable the UK Government introduced a system by which you were effectively paid for the surplus electricity your installation fed back to the network.

It rapidly proved popular, and the payment was called the "Feed-in Tariff"; but I think it has now ended. I do not have such a power-pack so I don't know what happens now, but presumably your panels would then simply not feed the public network. Even if they did you would not lose anything by electricity being generated at no cost to, and not used by, you. You might even still gain if you use the system for long enough to more than repay its capital cost.

Nevertheless I think a good many owners soon repaid or even profited from their solar panels, by the Feed-in Tariff!

I cannot own an electric car but although I don't go along with your rather histrionic attacks on them, I agree that using them as mains-supply batteries is rather silly. Obviously it could not apply to owners who cannot recharge their cars at home anyway (nowhere to park it on their own property).
Sorry, I only skimmed what you wrote.
so why would you let someone else steal the electricity from your EV's battery that you already used to 'fuel up' the vehicle?

We have solar on the roof and a battery in the basement. My local utility is offering to PAY us for the right to help drain our battery in the evenings. Our battery is about 12kWh; some of the big F150e batteries are 10X that.

It's a market: they offer to pay, and I decide if I'll agree and contract to the terms.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues I guess there will be some who subscribe to the view that the energy you store in your vehicle's 'fuel tank' (be it petrol, diesel, hydrogen, electric, etc.) is a 'valuable community resource' that you don't 'own' once you pay for it.

This is a topic that Louis Rossman could talk about, and would fit wholly within the mantra of 'own nothing be happy'.
@zonavar68 Did you even read what I wrote?

The utility OFFERED to PAY!

They are using MARKET MECHANISMS!!

Do you have something against markets???

 
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