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Sicarium · 46-50, M
Anyone looking to Cuba as an example of "progress" is proving that they're either a complete idiot or that they see oppression, subjugation, and murder as "progress".
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@IzzyCastro: Pick your favorite city in the 'free world.' Compare it to Havana. Without fail, the closer the politics of that city are to Castro's politics, the more that city will resemble Havana under Castro.

You can use moral equivalencies all you want. I won't fall for them. A lack of perfection in the 'free world' is not an excuse to regress society back into serfdom in the name of a socialist utopia.
IzzyCastro · 26-30, F
Are we not all after some utopia? Did your founding fathers not envision creating an utopia in the original constitutional conventions? It took quite some time to institute the constitution, and make, how many amendments so far?@Sicarium:
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@IzzyCastro: No, not at all. There's your fundamental misunderstanding. You're assuming anyone can create a utopia for anyone else. The Founders realized they couldn't do that, nobody could. Least of all any government. Governments exist only by force or threat of force. No utopia based on force or the threat of force can exist. So they let people be free to pursue their own individual utopias, or as close to utopia as they could achieve for themselves.

SW-User
I personally believe so. They are very educated and managed to stay afloat despite the world turning their back on them.
IzzyCastro · 26-30, F
Exactly, and the exiles that landed on Cuba? Batista supporters?
SW-User
@IzzyCastro: The people fleeing Cuba were the rich and corrupt.
MikefromEP · 56-60, M
When I went to Cuba in 92 I saw free education where kids dressed for school.. which i admire... but I also have a picture of a person roughly 40 years old cutting grass in a traffic circle cutting grass with 2 machete's....
SW-User
Yes, but not completely free, in the past we had free study scholarships in my country, and the students used it to go a year back packing to Asia ore Australia.
lillyd · F
This used to be the case in Australia too...aren't we supposed to go forward not backward?

 
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