In Cuba, under Fidel, no one paid for education to degree level, should this be a global factor for improvement?

Should all governments seeking to progress socially and economically seriously follow the Cuban pattern if investment in the Young?

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Sicarium · 46-50, M

Anyone looking to Cuba as an example of "progress" is proving that they're either a complete idiot or that they see oppression, subjugation, and murder as "progress".

IzzyCastro · 26-30, F

That doesn't go on in the 'free world', crime and credit, the banksters fraudulently driving up interest rates so as to affect pensions worth?

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@IzzyCastro: Pick your favorite city in the 'free world.' Compare it to Havana. Without fail, the closer the politics of that city are to Castro's politics, the more that city will resemble Havana under Castro.

You can use moral equivalencies all you want. I won't fall for them. A lack of perfection in the 'free world' is not an excuse to regress society back into serfdom in the name of a socialist utopia.

IzzyCastro · 26-30, F

Are we not all after some utopia? Did your founding fathers not envision creating an utopia in the original constitutional conventions? It took quite some time to institute the constitution, and make, how many amendments so far?@Sicarium:

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@IzzyCastro: No, not at all. There's your fundamental misunderstanding. You're assuming anyone can create a utopia for anyone else. The Founders realized they couldn't do that, nobody could. Least of all any government. Governments exist only by force or threat of force. No utopia based on force or the threat of force can exist. So they let people be free to pursue their own individual utopias, or as close to utopia as they could achieve for themselves.