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Should school eduction be a right everyone is entitled to or a privilege only for those who can afford it?

I don't know about other countries, but here in Australia school education is gradually sliding inexorably towards becoming fully privileged and only for who's parents can afford it.

Even so called 'public education'.

Should school education for a right for everyone or a privilege only for those who can afford it?

Universities (ie. where people go to qualify for 'white collar' jobs) here are very much only for those who can afford it, even the TAFE (what is I think akin to 'college' in the USA?) vocational training (ie. where people would go to qualify for 'blue collar' jobs) is like that now.

Basically, if you have rich parents you have a higher chance of being put into a private school which are almost all religious schools run by church businesses. Otherwise public schooling (run by governments) is where you do.

If you have rich parents you also have a high chance of being able to go to university due to the cost of tertiary education.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I agree that this is close to the result. But I disagree on the detail. Public education is still generally quite adequate preparation for University. But the real issue is the disruption caused by the bottom 5% of students, preventing the teachers imparting what they know and preventing the rest of the students from focusing on acquiring the knowledge best suited for them. Also the occasional bad egg teacher in the system cant be weeded out of the government system in the way the non government system can. I dont have an answer that is socially acceptable. But that is your real problem. Those parents who make the effort to place their children in the non government system are rewarded with a better learning result and higher tertiary education entry..😷
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Adogslife · 61-69, M
In the US, generally speaking, the more affluent the local community, the better the public school system will be. Most private school produce students at an educational level that betters their public school brethren. In the US, private education is fairly expensive. It’s not unusual for tuition to fall in the range of $15,000-$35,000 per year with some exclusive boarding schools exceeding $75,000 a year.

Personally, I think all the costs are too high for the product being delivered. Sometimes, the rate of return simply isn’t enough because the standards are set too low. The cost of college in the US is a perfect example. We burden children (and their parents, often) with incredible debt just as they’re attempting to fly the coop.

You literally couldn’t make up a dumber plan. Essentially the affluent end up funding endowments which in turn fund financial aid. But, the financial aid is rarely enough to truly attract the underprivileged who deserve the benefits of education the most.

Rinse. Lather. Repeat. And every year it gets more expensive…
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Adogslife I concur. A properly educated workforce is an investment in a nations future. Not an opportunity to gouge students, into decades of debt before they start earning. If I didnt know better I would say it was a way to advance the wealthy ahead of the working class.😷
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman I'm lucky that one advantage of being neuro-atypical with traits at the aspergers end of the ASD spectrum means I have been able to self-teach myself a lot in life (and still keep doing that). I've never got any formal tertiary quals though after high school in 1986 I went straight to uni in 1987 with no break and burnt myself out eduation-wise 2 years later.

Formal education or not - you never actually stop learning new things. Lets hope the element of open-minded common-sense doesn't get monetised any time soon.

Just today (Christmas Day - I'm on my own) I've done painting in my bathroom (had to come up with inventive ways to get access around fixtures, etc.), installed/aligned/tested and done operational 'training' for my now completed model train layout (third and final module was wired up incrementally over last few weeks), and about to cook lamb chops and veges for dinner. Being single gives me lots of time to do stuff when I'm not working or have my 8 y/o staying.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 Education is an attitude. Qualification means you get to charge for the paper you hand on the wall. Sounds like we are both well educated. Even though we took different paths. Now I find myself effectively single and shuffling the deck to see which path I might take next year. Having an 8YO grounds you in every sense of the word. I just spent the day with all my small family and I am grateful for them. But I know its going to be different next year. Nothing stays the same..😷

 
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