I feel like colleges should be responsible for getting you a job for the thing that you majored in

People waste so much time and money on college, student loan debt is insane. They can't even provide you with the books and pre-reqs are mandatory. And then after 3, 4, 5+ years of the bs people still can't get a job.

Ok, so either get them a job or give them their money back.

Imagine if this was done with anything else. You buy a car and it might work, it might not work. That'd be crazy.

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CrazyMusicLover · 31-35

There are colleges like that. Some are directly teamed up with companies and provide new workers for them.
Then there are those that expect you be more than just a regular worker, they kind of want you to be self-employed and create working positions for other people if you are able to go that big.
If I got it right, if you want to be trained for some specific position in a company, you go to a specialized high school, dual education or individual advanced courses. If you go to a university, you either train to become a part of the university as a researcher/teacher or you aim for some individual path as an entrepreneur. A part is expected to go to some higher positions but realistically, there are far less positions than the number of graduates colleges produce every year.
This is Europe though.

Rolexeo · 26-30, M

@CrazyMusicLover That's definitely a step in the right direction, ik trade schools more or less set you up with a job, it should be the norm for colleges in America to do the same. Surprised it isn't really being pushed for in America

CrazyMusicLover · 31-35

@Rolexeo Yes but the problem here is that we have high schools with "general education" that are supposed to prepare students for college. However, kids (or their parents) decide for them when they are 10 or 15, depending if they go to 8 year or 4 year program. So if they graduate from these and don't want to go to college anymore, they have no trade/craft/practical skills in hands and have hard time to get employed. If everything worked as it should, trade/professionally specialized high schools would produce able workers filling positions where the higher education isn't needed. The problem is that these schools have always been seen as something less than prestigious "prep" schools for colleges and unfortunately, many truly didn't provide sufficient education and practical training in past (I don't know how it is now). Since there was a high demand for "prep" schools, now there are far more of them than needed and far more high school graduates that have no where else to go than to a college or take a job that requires no education whatsoever. So as a response, colleges lowered their demands too and there are far more college students than needed, even some that would have probably fared much better if they had finished a trade high school and started working.
It feels like some of the study programs were created solely for some teachers to have something to teach and be able to stay at academical ground, regardless of how useless it is to new students...but generally, it's considered their problem if they choose this program over something that might give them a higher chance to get employed after they'll have graduated.

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

College is a scam they sell you. You don’t have to go to a secondary school to be successful. most of the most successful highest paying people in the world didn’t even go to secondary school.

Just look at actors or football players. Did you know that dog walkers in California can make more than $200,000 a year?

Rolexeo · 26-30, M

@DeluxedEdition So many jobs pay well but people are status obsessed so they overlook things like the trades. You can even make good money doing uber, door dash, or working at Amazon, stuff like that.

SW-User

Do you expect the car dealer to fill the tank and drive you around? You bought it, now you can drive somewhere good. Or you can leave it in the driveway and complain that you never go anywhere.

Education is not wasted time if you learn something. Maybe you didn’t.

Rolexeo · 26-30, M

@SW-User That's cute and all but anything you learn at college you can learn online for free. The point of college is to get a job. You can't make people hire you just cause you're qualified.

The issue is they should be able to get the job they're qualified for but can't.

As for your analogy, no, it's more like you buy the care, it doesn't work, so you have to spend a ton just to get it to work.

MrBrownstone · 46-50, M

Did the people who invented college go to college? It’s almost as if it’s just about money.

Rolexeo · 26-30, M

@MrBrownstone Colleges aren't what they used to be

GohantheThird · M

Unfortunately, you have to get into the right college and know the right people for that to happen.

stratosranger · M

Funny how many (th)intelligent people keep buying into this racket

DDonde · 31-35, M

A good college should provide some career support.
Most people that go to college are barely adults and are just doing what their parents suggested though
I'm not really arguing against your point, just saying that maybe the negative consequences of the whole thing should be much better communicated to these kids and their parents.

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