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Where do you stand?

Politically I'd say I'm middle/left.

Don't understand or agree with the the far right. Never will.

Yes I had my vaccines for COVID.
COVID was an unknown deadly virus, I wasn't risking it. I have children and the thought of leaving them behind should I get really ill, scares me enormously. I have had it, felt pretty shitty, but had I not had my vaccine I may have been a lot worse.
I lost my best friend to it, yes she had underlying issues but ultimately it was COVID that contributed to her death.

I don't think the vaccines were a money making/brainwashing hoax, I think they have helped save many lives.

Your views/experiences?
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revenant · F
I am a libertarian or your old fashioned liberal. I am for freedom of speech and freedom of choice.
Nothing has been handed to me on a plate either and I have had to fight to get what I wanted. I sure do not believe in an all good utopian civilisation to come for I have seen too many bad sides of human nature.
I am way way more liberal and relaxed than the marxist kids nowadays who I view as extremely uptight and humourless.
I believe people evolve with experience and age. I used to believe in lots of things before but with time I was not so convinced
I strongly believe that we live in a scam world more and more where nothing is really what we are led to believe.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@revenant Agreed the world is very corrupt and we should take everything world leaders and politicians promise, with a pinch of salt.
Common sense always prevails.
Fairydust · F
@Lanie78
So why do you believe their science,
If you agree they are corrupted?
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@Fairydust Corruption within governments has been around since the beginning of time. All world leaders have advisors, they were advised by top scientists on what to do for the best. Some world leaders went against what was advised. If you don't believe in the science then why do people still rely on healthcare professionals. You have to weigh it up, and look at it logically. I personally don't know anyone who reacted to the vaccines.
Fairydust · F
@Lanie78
The WEF have taken over the government’s worldwide, the pandemic was brought in to take control of the masses.
The elite own the pharmaceutical world and the governments that push it.
medicine isn’t there to make us better, it’s to keep us sick.
I would never trust them, I know many that reacted to the vaccines and no one that got really sick or died with covid.
They gave covid patients drugs that killed them, not covid.
Remdesivir and midazolam combined with morphine.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@Fairydust So you don't take any medication then? Have had no vaccines throughout your life?
revenant · F
@Lanie78 please do not regurgitate the " anti vaxx" stuff.
Fairydust · F
@Lanie78

No I don’t and had no vaccines since I’ve been an adult I won’t take any, my friends healthy husband died after the flu jab, covid turned me totally against them, after seeing what they cover up and the online factcheckers that came along after it all.
I wish I never had my children vaccinated, I didn’t trust the medical world any more from experience and observations over the years.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@Fairydust Vaccines save lives. Many children didn't live beyond the age of 5 years ago hence the introduction of MMR Vaccines etc. To not protect a child is cruel in my view. Though it's your choice. Let's hope you don't need any medical intervention to save yours or a family members life in the future. Without science and health professionals mankind wouldn't be what it is today.
Fairydust · F
@Lanie78

I don’t believe they do, I think it’s all a con.

Because they brainwash you with tv 📺 etc.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@Fairydust I don't wish to continue this discussion further. Scientific evidence proves otherwise and historically infant death statistics were horrific. You can't deny the facts. The media wasn't about then either so you can't argue that point. I wish you well.
Fairydust · F
@Lanie78 you should look into Rockefeller who created the pharmaceutical world.

The media was created to programme you. 📺
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@Fairydust Sigh. He made his billions through the oil industry. Dabbled a bit in medicine. Okay seriously done here.
Fairydust · F
@Lanie78
You say you like to debate, but only if it’s what you believe Lol 💅🏻 😆