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Who is in the wrong here?

Maybe it's neither, I don't know... but it's annoying and I need to vent 馃槄

I am a very punctual person. Not only is it polite, it's just not that difficult... If I'm meeting someone somewhere, I look up how far it is, how long it will take to travel there, so I know what time I have to leave.

I have a friend who is always late for everything. I wave it off but it is getting really annoying. Others have told me 'just get there late yourself' but two wrongs don't make a right 馃槀 The point of agreeing a time is... you stick to that time.

What's worse is they always arrive and say 'sorry, have you been here long?' YES! Exactly as long as how late you are 馃槧

Yesterday they arrived 45 minutes after I had arrived (and I got there 15 minutes late, as it was as long past the agreed meeting time that I could comfortably allow myself to be!)
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SW-User
With those sorts of people, you have to arrive 1 hour late or so. Just try it once or twice. Let them wait. That's how they will grow. It helps them see things from the other's perspective.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but life is not meant to be perfect and we can never be always right. Might as well be selective about our "wrongs".
helsbels26-30, F
@SW-User I could get there an hour late and still arrive first sometimes 馃槄

I get what you're saying but I can't bring myself to do it, it just isn't natural to me. As someone said below, it makes it seem that the other person's time is less valuable than yours.

All I can do is mention it next time I suppose, and say how rude I find it. It's not that I think they do it deliberatly though, they are just a less organised person. Some people are very intelligent but have no common sense, or are very good at puzzles but no good at physical stuff. It's just a fact of who they are.
SW-User
@helsbels Then get 2 hours late 馃槒

Personally it's an affective way for me. Mirroring their actions work better than words. It is good to step out of your comfort zone at times.
ninalanyon61-69, T
@helsbels [quote]All I can do is mention it next time I suppose, and say how rude I find it.[/quote]
Are you implying that you haven't already done this?

I would have at least asked them why they were late the very first time, just an offhand "What held you up?" if I was not especially inconvenienced or something rather more pointed if I had been.