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Anti-FLU vaxer all my life. Now this CV vaccine is being pushed. Why should I take it? [I Am Against Vaccination]

I am an anti-flu vaccine person by choice. I certainly would NEVER take this one for reasons that you will learn in the video.
This "vaccine" is actually what they are calling an "immune therapy".
The following video will explain the details, she is a Nurse in the UK who has seen,
studied and heard all the fear-mongering warnings that we "must all take the vaccine"
and seen, studied and explain the results of MANY who have.
Research. Think for yourself.
I wish you health and long life.
Ms A

KATE SHEMIRANI ---- https://www.bitchute.com/video/58Jpxd9OoFHR/ please copy and paste into your browser; this platform will only allow Youtube.
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Jdanielb Best Comment
Might I please for your safety and others present a completely different point of view, I dont care if I am pierced for my beliefs, I live to tell the truth.

I am anti vax. I will start with a few things that are easily searchable by any reading this, even though I wont apply any sources. I find it invalid to list sources since people will either receive or dismiss what they hear. Then I will end with the different point of view on why people become sick to begin with.

1. All its symptoms are flu like, if it acts like the flu, it is the flu.

2. It's a known fact that the flu under an electron microscope emits a corona or aura of glow around it.

3. So it seems they have a reason for renaming the flu as corona to scare the masses.

4. One can only assume that this is to push a vaccine through fear mongering for another agenda.

5 drs have stated that they receive at least 10k more for reporting a covid death to insurance.

6 drs have stated the CDC left a covid death definition loose to spike the death toll. Example, a patient has 40 years of congestive heart failure, and has a heart attack in the hospitals care while they had a sniffle nose or a slight fever, go ahead and label it covid. It is my opinion that greed will master people's decision, in a system where many are kept borderline poverty or at least only a couple of paychecks from losing everything.

7. There's no chance there are enough clinical trials yet, and the vax doesnt even prevent you from getting it. Hitler tested on Jews. The govt seems to have become Hitler and the population the Jews.

8 the vax has killed, that is no justifiable, especially since it doesnt even irradicate the disease.

9.ok.. now for the different view on why people even get sick to begin with. This may sound like a matter of religion but I assure you it is not. I despise religion and consider it a perversion of sacred texts that are really about harmony with nature. What you must decide for yourself is .

1. Is it possible the earth is a living entity.

2. Is it possible that religion was created to get people to steer away from books called holy and their belief in god. The god I am speaking of would not be a fearmongering eternal hell god, but rather , look at creation and see its abundant signs of free flourishing life, this god would be defined by what he created for us , before mans inventions existed.

3. Here's the part you really wont want to here or mayhaps you might see the clarity in it.

If your body has a virus in it, you create antibodys to fight it. Why should we be perceived as different than the earth around us? If human kind becomes a virus on earth, then we become eligible for destruction. The earth will fight against us. So what we perceive as a virus is actually earths antibodys defending her because of our distractions.

4 oil is murder, drilling and frakking, while we have cleaner natural ways to live, money is governed by oil, so they continue raping nature to keep oil going.

5. I have not been sick with even a common cold or sore throat in a multitude of years, because I had these realizations and quit participating with jobs and the system of man, I chose to be content with food and clothing, and forego the system of men. In my mind the two things are correlative. My life choice to not enslave my brothers and sisters by paying tax, and to not participate with Mans govts and money, are directly correlated to my never being sick. I also was 300 lbs and in high blood pressure and had 3 slipped disks, when I released mans system. The slipped disks have repaired, I am down to a healthy weight and my high blood pressure has gone away.

6. Some of you will have trouble with what I say next. There is a god, and the man jesus christ who himself said " choose god or money" appeared to me in a holy vision. You can turn the phrase choose god or money into choose earth or money or into choose yourself or money, and it's all saying the same thing..

7.it is the christian religion that denys being for jesus is following his teaching, they say we will god and we will money.

8 I am not saying that only jesus is true. I believe all religion is folly. But I believe all the books are true. It was the reading of the books of all religions and rejecting all their pastors and teachers and only believing what was ckearly stated by the sages and prophets and gurus themselves, that induced the holy vision.

9.. DONT FUCKING CONFUSE ME FOR A WEAK MINDED INDIVIDUAL, NOT READY TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND HIS BELIEFS. IF YOU PIERCE ME I WILL RISE ON YOUR VENOM AND PROVE TO THE WORLD BY THE SCRIPTURE YOU THINK YOU DEFEND, I WILL PROVE YOU ARROGANT, PRIDEFUL AND WRONG. YOUR PASTORS ARE ALL LIARS. I AM NOT LESS THAN LUCIFER AND I AM NOT OUT DONE BY MANS IGNORANCE. Research yourselves before you bite or you will be proved an idiot..

Peace to all of you, have a blessed existence. Just as moses toppled a govt. And jesus was crucified for resisting one, and george washington toppled one, I also expect that the god I saw will do the same for me and lead you all to freedom..
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Jdanielb Bwahaha
@QuixoticSoul it's amazing that I told you I expected your attacks.. and that one should research for themselves. You are obviously a blind idiot ready and willing to follow govt to your grave. Since its clear by the immediate nature of response , coming within seconds of my comment.. you've researched nothing.. what I've learned was acquired over a life time. You are simple.. enjoy your simplicity.. my comments for the educated not idiots.
Northwest · M
@Jdanielb A stab in the dark here, but you're a new arrival to SE, migrating from Yahoo Answers!, right?

I hear you, but shouldn't we also trust what the government is saying, after all, like the late Rush Limbaugh said, this is Covid-19, so the vaccines must be OK, because we dealt with 18 previous Covids, right?
@Northwest I have never been on Yahoo answers and I arrived before that site shut down.

You should make your own choice. You shouldn't believe anyone or anything until you have heard most everything you can acquire from everyone. Eventually the puzzle pieces fit..

As to trusting govt.. without going into conspiracy theories, let's just look at what's evident.

You live on a planet and they are ok destroying it with oil practices and nuclear practices.. I would not trust anything that loved money so much they were willing to destroy the planet that sustains me , to be sure they keep the value of a dollar..

Smh.. the human life and the planet that give it life or more valuable than a dollar..

Decide for yourselves but I will gladly converse with anyone and reprove those who outright attack..
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Jdanielb I’m a fast reader, and your unhinged screed was super funny 🤷‍♂️
@QuixoticSoul do you have anything other than an opinion to state? Because I dont consider this form of derogatory opinion as an attack, so.. I have nothing to rebuttal.. enjoy your life, it probably wont be as long or as healthy as mine.. good luck
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@MarmeeMarch entitled to your opinion.. I will keep mine, your not undoing my thread here unless you convince the owner of the original post to block me..

I'm just sorry your not one of the ones helped by my lifes conclusions. I guess you evolved from a monkey, where many others evolved from god.. good luck with that..

I love that my level acquired peace cant be disrupted, if a comment could break my peace and create emotion in me, I wouldn't post to begin with..

So.. dislike what I said if you like .. what's that to me. What I said will help who it helps.. so what the point in you making comments to the contrary? Does it serve a purpose? Go about your day. Find someone with a weaker mind whom you can bother.
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@MarmeeMarch you need a weaker minded jedi.. you won't get me to go on an emotionally imbalanced rant.. have a nice day. My thread remains
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Jdanielb From long experience I have learned that when someone starts off on a “bro, but what if humans are the real virus *hits blunt*” spiel, pointing and laughing is the most productive response.
@QuixoticSoul do you really think that because your media and govt education have turned your brain to hog wash, that your insults do anything at all to me.. I'm capable of an I formed opinion fed by deity, without being phased by your comment, that 3 times now has not even hit close to the mark on my own originality..

It takes a super conceited motherfucker to assume what he learned In a few years of school is wiser than what over 30 different books have portrayed for centuries. Your brain is swiss govt cheese sir. You are a special breed of idiot. Your research clearly goes as far as your govt lab rat maze and the remote control that dispenses your holy wood slop.. go get your next dose of govt crack and leave me alone.. my time is more valuable than you could even fathom..
@Jdanielb THANK YOU...🥇BEST COMMENT!!!! 🕵️‍♀️
5. drs have stated that they receive at least $10k more for reporting a covid death to insurance.
6. drs have stated the CDC left a covid death definition loose to spike the death toll. Example, a patient has 40 years of congestive heart failure, and has a heart attack in the hospitals care while they had a sniffle nose or a slight fever, go ahead and label it covid. It is my opinion that greed will master people's decision, in a system where many are kept borderline poverty or at least only a couple of paychecks from losing everything.
These are pieces of information, presented as evidence that the media is NOT telling us the truth. Anyone who says this is a conspiracy theory; needs to define that phrase and see the "fact checkers" as propagandist censures trying to keep you from seeing the truth.
7. There's no chance there are enough clinical trials yet, and the vax doesnt even prevent you from getting it. Hitler tested on Jews. The govt seems to have become Hitler and the population the Jews.
I even heard Fauci himself say "We haven't gotten the results back from the human trials yet" or something very similar to that. I caught it there and heard many other places and believe that it HAS NOT BEEN ADEQUATELY TESTED, not even a small percentage of other seasonal flu vaccines.
8 the vax has killed, that is not justifiable, especially since it doesn't even irradicate the disease.
And then we are told, IF we get the vaxes that we STILL HAVE TO WEAR MASKS...logic dictates that once you take a normal vaccine, your body is to build immunity and if someone should come along by you while not wearing a mask, you have nothing to fear.
2. Is it possible that religion was created to get people to steer away from books called holy and their belief in god. The god I am speaking of would not be a fearmongering eternal hell god, but rather , look at creation and see its abundant signs of free flourishing life, this god would be defined by what he created for us , before mans inventions existed.
🥰 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And the expanse [of heaven] is declaring the work of His hands. Ps 19:1

I think you will appreciate this quote from Abdul-Baha (Baha'i faith)
Should any one suppose that man is but a part of the world of nature, and he being endowed with these perfections, these being but manifestations of the world of nature, and thus nature is the originator of these perfections and is not deprived therefrom, to him we make reply and say: the part dependeth upon the whole; the part cannot possess perfections whereof the whole is deprived.

Sorry for the length but then again, thinkers and readers won't mind.
Northwest · M
@MsAlaineEYes

All its symptoms are flu like, if it acts like the flu, it is the flu.

The Flu and Covid-19 share some of the same symptoms, but they are not the same. Hitting my head against a door, will give me a headhace. The flu gives me a headhahe. A door is not the same as the flu.

Loss of smell, loss of taste, amputations, heart issues, neurological symptoms, and that's just some of the non-flu like behavior.

It's a known fact that the flu under an electron microscope emits a corona or aura of glow around it.

No, not even close. The Influenza virus (which causes the flu), is a Corona Virus, just as Covid-19 is, and a bunch of other viruses, because they have spikes like a crown (NOT a glow), giving them the latin designation Corona or Crown in Latin.

So it seems they have a reason for renaming the flu as corona to scare the masses.

No. Please do not make life or death decisions, based on misinformation. Read above.

One can only assume that this is to push a vaccine through fear mongering for another agenda.

Please, educate yourself, or at a minimum, stop spreading misinformation.

drs have stated that they receive at least 10k more for reporting a covid death to insurance.

This is a LIE. Name one doctor who's getting paid to falsify a Covid-19 death.

drs have stated the CDC left a covid death definition loose to spike the death toll. Example, a patient has 40 years of congestive heart failure, and has a heart attack in the hospitals care while they had a sniffle nose or a slight fever, go ahead and label it covid. It is my opinion that greed will master people's decision, in a system where many are kept borderline poverty or at least only a couple of paychecks from losing everything.

Most people who die from Covid, have co-morbidity factors. But people can live for decades, with Diabetes, hypertension, cancer, auto-immune issues, etc. They are dead due to Covid-19, not the co-morbidity factors.

There's no chance there are enough clinical trials yet, and the vax doesnt even prevent you from getting it. Hitler tested on Jews. The govt seems to have become Hitler and the population the Jews.

Every single vaccine, approved by the FDA for emergency use, has gone through a series of clinical trials, in addition to the mass (100s of millions of doses), already administered.

No vaccine is 100% effective, but both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine are 90% effective. This means that 10% of the vaccinated people can still get it, which is why it's important to take precautions, even if you're vaccinated.

the vax has killed, that is no justifiable, especially since it doesnt even irradicate the disease.

These vaccines have proven to be 99.999% safe. Every single thing you take, including Aspirin, has a longer list of side effects, and perhaps even death.

Eradicating it means stopping the spread and that's not going to happen unless people get vaccinated.
@MarmeeMarch So why not call this SARS and not CoVid 19? That makes NO sense to "downgrade it" IF it were to be so contagious and deadly; which it isn't.
@Jdanielb There will be no blocking of you. YOU HAVE FREE SPEECH and so does anyone, even if they disagree who present some thoughtful argument to add to the conversation. No I'm enjoying this...thanks daniel.
@Jdanielb
I love that my level acquired peace cant be disrupted, if a comment could break my peace and create emotion in me, I wouldn't post to begin with..
That's my attitude as well. NO ONE can intimidate, shout me down, no matter how snarky and bad*ss they think they are. I am MORE bad*ss and so are you. Go for it.
Northwest · M
@MsAlaineEYes
So why not call this SARS and not CoVid 19? That makes NO sense to "downgrade it" IF it were to be so contagious and deadly; which it isn't.

Who's "downgrading" it?

IF it were to be so contagious and deadly

What part of 150 Million infections, so far, does not spell contagious?
SW-User
@Jdanielb I won’t begin to unpack your post...
I could... and I would get blocked...

So, I will offer this link as suggested reading.

This virus wrecks the immune response..

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00149-1

It’s astounding what happens when we start asking questions. Science is tool that humans have to develop those important questions.
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@SW-User I actually only have about 3 people blocked.. I dont do that unless they just keep incessantly coming at me with nothing but heckles and jests with no real meat..

1 arrow or spear in speech is acceptable.

2 or 3 is looked down on, more than 5 is a nuisance..

Conversations though contain ideas without attacks, those can go on endlessly..

So alkynesoftrouble, I dont offer up ideas I'm unsure of , I offer up ideas others are unsure of.. so what's your hope in me looking at what you put up to investigate? Do you think I will turn around and say, oops I suddenly changed my mind, I never really saw god, or met the planets heart, and I just realized I have no idea what I'm talking about?..

Because that's not gonna happen , it's hard for people to process.. once god teaches a man , he has outstripped everything taught by men..and entered the next sphere of life.. kinda like Mario on level 3 dropping behind the scenery to get the hidden underlying secret..

I'm going to copy and paste your link because I care about people's concerns, but it wont change anything I've stated.
@SW-User read it..

1. What makes you think I believe science is anything more than what timothy states it is " avoid the vain babbling of science, called knowledge and falsely so.

2. Mans idiocy can not correct mans idiocy.. you might want to seriously consider that karma is real as the new testament states " god is not mocked you reap what you sow" . Oil is murder, therefore receive murder. You cant participate with enslavers and destroyers and not become enslaved and destroyed.

3 if I choose to receive what your article stated as true, you money lovers have plenty to fear, enjoy that prison.

4. It's only going to get worse with variant upon variant, even if what man calls corona virus is checked, are you familiar with the plagues on Egypt, there will be something immediate and worse that manifests until creation is released from the corruption of bondage.

Corona virus.. crown virus, head virus, thought virus.. it's all saying the same thing. Man is sick in the head and boasting against nature, saying it gives us life but it's ok to destroy it ..

" boast not against the root, for the root supports you, you do not support it."

Humanity must go on, it always has, the earth will wipe out its destroyers until they are no more.

Grace is an interesting concept, because one can be trapped in the ignorance of their destructive sin and still be safe. Your mind and heart constantly emit your aura. If one could not see how to escape money and govt but decided they wanted to and began searching out how to live without harming the planet, the planet would know this and not harm you, as it opened doors of escape to you.
SW-User
😂..


I don’t know where you came from...or who you think you are..

You are a top shelf clown..
I thought hippy Joe was funny...
At least he is informed ...

Your tone is all kinds of wrong...
I didn’t ask about your faith..
Nor do I need it showing up in a conversation about science.

Science and math are hard subjects ...
It’s clear, you went a different path in life..

If you block me, you are way to much of a coward.
@Jdanielb
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@MarmeeMarch Yes, the China Virus. Other than that, that is not the point of this thread; read or move one.