Anti-FLU vaxer all my life. Now this CV vaccine is being pushed. Why should I take it? [I Am Against Vaccination]

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow for you? maybe? I've watched and read HOURS upon HOURS, I feel like I should have my Master's in Research by now over the past 12 years of learning about "how things are" not only here in the US but all over the world.

@MsAlaineEYes Again. Watching hours of videos is not "research. In any institution, hell even a high school you would get laughed out of the room.

@CopperCicada The fact that then invented their own official sounding "British Nurses Alliance" to sound more credible and their entire argument is "trust me this is real. I have evidence but I can't show you." And the whole referring to vaccines as a "device" seems a deliberate dog whistle to the whole microchip conspiracy.

@CopperCicada [b]Freedom to choose[/b] VS [u]the propaganda media hype and lies[/u] that cause FEAR in people and make them feel that they MUST choose the vaccine or else they will die FROM the CV.

Everyone has the right to decide. Of course, there's an "anti-vaxxer", you know, like the "trumper" or "truther" or other "right wing conspiracy theorist" names that anyone is called that beliefs align AGAINST what the media tells us. Another American or at least another human, who has their own thoughts and lives, being discriminated against and hated and maligned for speaking out. Period. [b]Thanks for asking. [/b](In other words, I don't shy away from having that target on my back when I know the conversation needs to be HAD)

@MsAlaineEYes Sorry but your freedom to choose ends when you put the lives and health of others at risk. I guess you believe millions have died from magical curses?

Actually in this case it is very much an accurate label when literally all you have is conspiracies and right wing blogs and no actual facts or data to back any of it.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow How am [b]I[/b] putting the lives and health of others at risk???? I do NOT give up my freedom to choose and in doing so, it does not cause harm to anyone but myself. I'm not here to do your research for you. [b]I asked YOU[/b], see original title thread [b] Anti-FLU vaxer all my life. Now this CV vaccine is being pushed. Why should I take it?[/b]

@MsAlaineEYes By choosing to be a potential carrier for a lethal disease you are putting people at risk. You also will give the virus a breeding ground to mutate making them vaccine resistant putting everyone else in more danger and making a year of hard work completely pointless. I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult. Yikes. Seems like we have a pandemic of stupid too.

Also freedom to make decisions doesn't mean freedom for responsibility for the consequences of your decisions. Funny how the "my rights" people never want to deal with the responsibility bit.


You have done no research at all. All you did was post a rambling rant by a quack with obvious intentions to mislead.

And if you can't understand that too viruses are fundamentally different and one in best case scenario which it is not in the US is 10 times more lethal. Based on the numbers in the US is it closer to 20 or 30 times because of fools like this.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow [b]Who says that I am a potent carrier?[/b]

@CopperCicada I did not mean to infer that YOU were; but MANY on this post expect me to have my Doctorate in Medicine to even speak about this. THIS is my opinion and decision after all.

[b]How can I give Covid to others if I do NOT have it???[/b]
I don't believe that I should "get tested to see if I have it" to prove that I don't have it. I am treated as "infected" and forced to wear a mask to "protect others", when mask wearing has been proven to be detrimental to anyone with a propensity toward possible pneumonia.

Again I ask "Why should I take it?????" That is not a rhetorical question. WHY do YOU think that I should take it and what is the evidence that I should consider? I've read all that you've written so no duplication is needed. Thanks.

@MsAlaineEYes You do realize that last year half the cases in South Korea were tied back to a single person who decided he was just going to do his own thing and fuck the consequences. So yeah one person can get alot of people killed.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow really. that's pretty amazing. A pretty big claim. Any other ones like it or is this solitary? Just doing my research. I don't take one bit of information and deem it credible...

OH, is THAT the reason why I should consider it? Sorry, this isn't S. Korea and I and my household have not been sick since Jan. of 2020 when we both had about 4 days of fever, coughing, no sense of taste, body aches, etc.

I think we got it early and I'm sure we must have gotten it from ONE person who made a lot of people sick in my area. I'd love the stats on that.

Remember when they were trying to set up "trackers" to see who we met in person and notify us if that person or notify them if we were ill within 2 weeks after that???? I wonder what happened to that seemingly harmless and obviously very helpful system of determining who was infecting others.

@MsAlaineEYes It is true. And unlike the US Korea actually knows how to do contact tracing.

Lol. That is funny since you accepted a few youtube videos entirely without any corroborating evidence of any kind.



So what? You think living in the US gives you magical protection or something? That is a pretty silly response. You do realize some people are asymptomatic. Heck the term exists for a reason. 🤦‍♂️


My guess is what happened is freakouts from people like you that they were going to microchip everyone. Alot of good ideas have been sunk because ignorant people had a meltdown over it.

@CopperCicada Yes, I know. It was dropped like a hot potato; yet so many people advocated that I give my contact information, permit tracking my phone and letting everyone know every person that I came within 10 feet...

@MsAlaineEYes And yet you already willingly hand that over to Google, Facebook, Apple etc.

@CopperCicada @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow That's true and given my permission in order to use it. I think most people know that; I think they needed MORE consent than that in order to not make it "spying" on us. Stalking more like it.

@CopperCicada Fair question: I am angry that MY rights, OUR rights are being considered null and void; similar to the way the Lithuanians killed their own Jews in the Holocaust; the hatred of the third reich was SO deeply ingrained that an Holocaust survivor that I knew and loved; Mordecai Kuritsky (passed April 2010) said they NEVER even saw a nazi the whole time. The people had internalized the hatred so much, they were not needed to exterminate these people from their communities. I am angry over hatred toward people groups, those who have different skin color and those who THINK differently. Those who are on "the right" and those "who are on the left". I am "poke me with a fork" DONE with all the division, it has spilled over into the "anti-vaxxers" being the bad guys and the "pro-vaxxers, pro-choice, anti-cop" being "the good guys". We are all ONE. We seem to want to cling onto this illusion that we are separate. I'm sorry you are separate from your love as I am as well. I have my son with me and I have recently lost my brother, not due to Covid, but to eternity. I'm NO foreigner to loss. I think another family whom we see weekly, also had symptoms in January and February. We happen to ALL be O blood type as well, coincidence? And we have not been around our elderly, I understand their fear but if I truly believed that I could be a carrier, or proved to be, I would have to think long and hard before I would take the vax; I think I would quarantine myself and protect others that way. Thanks for the questions and comments. I appreciate the thought you actually put in it.

@MsAlaineEYes So oligarchs and corporations spying on you is cool but government you actually have a say in is not? that is interesting.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow it is. anyone else you ask might just look at you cross-eyed, but your irony is not lost on me. I get it. I've only truly "known" about the corporations powers to know everything about us. What can we do if we want to have internet, phone, cable, etc? I'm saying that it is NOT OK either way; the government HAD TO ASK because of our rights and it should be the same for "BIG TECH".

@MsAlaineEYes Master’s in Research on how things are

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