COVID VAX and Damar Hamlin's cardiac arrest

@Funtoy4u i heard that his vitals are returning to normal. boy this was so shocking and upsetting

@akindheart I have not been able to follow his recovery. I was watching the game and immediately figured it was a commotio cordis event. He is lucky that the medics were right there. This is usually fatal as it is more common in baseball whit the median age of the person at 15 years old and usually do not get immediate CPR. I am wishing him the best.

@Funtoy4u i saw it on IG and a nurse on IG diagnosed it as cardiac failure. we didn't get an update until in the middle of the night. It sounds like a freak accident.

@akindheart If it is a commotio cordis event, it is a freak accident. You must get hit with just the right force in just the right place at just the right time. The time window is just 20 to 40 milliseconds of the cardiac cycle.

@Funtoy4u wow...freak accident. thank you for the info. i hope he will survive. i heard he is stable

@Funtoy4u

I was watching on TV when it happened. The near immediate stunned reaction from all the other players said it was life threatening. I had once witnessed a similar collapse where the individual didn't survive. Like one second he's fully alive and a second later totally lifeless.

I'm still a bit confused by his seemingly normal behavior for a few seconds after the hit, and then the complete collapse. My own experience with a ladder mishap and hard blow to the chest and abdomen was followed immediately by being totally stunned and near frozen for 5+ seconds, followed by very slow crawling as I assessed whether I was still alive. Maybe a full 30+ seconds before taking a breath.

A few hours prior to the Bills-Bengals game, in the LSU-Purdue game, Purdue's Deion Burks suffered what appeared to be a severe neck injury and was immobilized and carted off. There was a lengthly delay but the game continued. Later disclosed that it looked like he would be OK.

@Heartlander The thing with a commotio cordis event is that other than your heart stopping, you are totally fine. You are not dazed like a concussion or anything. But your brain is not getting any blood. And he is an athlete who is using up what oxygen is currently in his blood at an accelerated rate so he loses consciousness in 10 seconds instead of 45 to 60 seconds that is normal.

@Heartlander in 1996 an MLB umpire dropped dead on the field right at the opening day first pitch.

I saw it happen - obvious he had died

@Heartlander there was an injury just prior to the bad one. he was taken off the field. i was watching when Damar was hit. they tried to get him into an ambulance but had to take him out to do CPR

@Heartlander John McSherry was the ump. Ironically it was in Cincinatti

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@Funtoy4u so what you aee saying is that this is probably not from a covid vaccine

@Funtoy4u

[quote] The thing with a commotio cordis event is that other than your heart stopping, you are totally fine[/quote]

Thanks, makes sense now. With my ladder mishap my immediate attention was the pain from the impact that immediately paralyzed or stunned me. Without that I would likely have just tried to get up and questioned my sanity. I also have a AAA that's parked at the risk balance between the risk of by-pass surgery Vs the risk of it rupturing, so I try my best to understand cardio-vascular physiology.

From someplace I understand that it takes an average of 20 seconds for a red blood cell to make a round trip (assuming a pumping heart), so shutting off the pump (the heart) in a closed system (our body) would lead to dwindling blood pressure but still with a few seconds worth of oxygen.