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Many didn’t take and push the shots for personal health reasons. They did it for virtue signaling tribal reasons, and they wanted to feel superior to other people. To break the spell, they must come to the realization that they were duped, they were fooled, and that’s painful.

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ElwoodBlues · M

Here's a little vaccine death data from the UK, where their NHS gets very complete data:

to August 2021 ... there were 9 deaths in the UK that involved the vaccine (meaning the vaccine contributed to the death), of which 5 had the vaccine as the underlying cause

Also

The Yellow Card reporting scheme has reported that between 9 December 2020 and 8 September 2021 there were 1,645 deaths where the person died shortly after receiving one of the coronavirus vaccines.

https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/10/04/how-many-people-have-died-as-a-result-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/

At present, 151,000,000 doses of vaccine have been administered in the UK; lets say there were 100M at the time of those numbers. So, doing the math,

9 known vaccine caused deaths per 100M
1645 deaths after vaccine per 100M
1,000,000 deaths among unvaccinated per 100M

That last number is the established 1% Covid death rate. This proves, once again, there is no 100% safe path in life, but it is far far safer to face Covid fully vaccinated rather than unprotected.

tl;dr: for every vaccine caused death, somewhere between 600 and 10,000 would die of Covid, based on these numbers.

And, just for yuks, lets assume the numbers are off by a factor of TEN. The vaccines STILL come out far safer!!

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revenant · F

@ElwoodBlues nobody trusts government data

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues Safer than what? No one is dying from covid. Covid was easily treated with other medicines. No need to be vaxed. Only stupid people get themselves vaxed against non lethal disease. The vax does more harm than good.

ElwoodBlues · M

@revenant Nobody? RIIIIIIIIGHT

Nobody except the people who take prescription medication. Oh and the people who take over the counter meds. Both those have to pass FDA muster. Do you folks in Canada do independent drug testing? Or a=have you been mostly reliant on the CDC and the FDA for the last sixty years to tell you what works?? My guess is Canada has been depending on the US FDA & CDC ever since thalidomide.

ElwoodBlues · M

@revenant @hippyjoe1955 I eagerly await any data whatsoever that might support your outlandish claims!! Unfortunately, I've learned that you live in a data desert and have ZERO data to share. SAD!!!

revenant · F

@ElwoodBlues If Volkwagen factory owners told the gouvernment that all other cars were defective and for your own safety you had to absolutely but absolutely buy Volkswagen cars or else..I would be suspicious.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues You don't do data. Try to stop listening to CNN all the time. You would have a much healthier view of the world.

revenant · F

@ElwoodBlues You really think any other data would be deemed acceptable ?

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@revenant Gotta love wormwood and his fake/out of date data.

revenant · F

@hippyjoe1955 give them a rope...

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@revenant lol. Imagine the vaxes were a car. How many deaths does it take to do a recall on a dangerous car? I see Jeep is recalling 63000 units because the engine may quit. Apparently there has been one injury resulting from such a shutdown. So if the vax were a car it would never have made it to market. The manufacturers all knew that the vaxes were dangerous because of their pre market testing.

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 DUUUDE!!! You're halfway there!!!

Now imagine if NOT having a car were 600X as deadly as having a car. Because, in your analogy, that's what the data from the UK says. I know ya doan rede 2 guude, so I'll paste it in here again:

For every vaccine caused death, somewhere between 600 and 10,000 would die of Covid, based on these numbers.

And, just for yuks, lets assume the numbers are off by a factor of TEN. The vaccines STILL come out far safer!!

ElwoodBlues · M

@revenant

You really think any other data would be deemed acceptable ?

That's really hard to say, because you vaccine critics NEVER supply even an iota of data. But if you have studies and or statistics and links to sources that I can follow, I'm interested.

And if you get all your data from facebook memes, what the heck, link me to them too!

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues Only an idiot would believe your nonsense. Covid was never a threat. Sadly the vax is a major threat. You choose to livin in ignorance. Your problem not mine.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues Your data is what is known as science fiction. Sadly you are incapable of realizing that.

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 Translation: You've got, as usual, ZERO data to support your outlandish claims. SAD!!!

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues Translation. You can't separate fact from fiction. So when is your next booster slated?

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 Translation: you're attempting to change the subject because you've got, as usual, ZERO data to support your outlandish claims. SAD!!!

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues I am asking when you are getting your next jab. You don't want to say?

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues So be honest and tell us all how many jabs you have had to prevent covid and when are you scheduled to have your next one? They are up to 5 now from what I read. So where are you since you are such a huge advocate of such 'preventative' measures.

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 I asked you for the source of your data. So be honest and provide it. Or are you too embarrassed by your sources?? Did you get your data from internet cartoons?? Is that what you're hiding???

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues After you let us know your vax status. If you don't then we will all know you are just an annoying little troll. So how many have you had and when is your next one?

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 Nope. I asked first, so you must answer first. Tell you what - show me published sources for your claims about vaccine death rate, and I'll tell you about my first vaccination. We'll trade one-for-one.

Deal? Or are you gonna chicken out??

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues So the great contender for the vax has never been vaxed. Now THAT IS FUNNY!!!!

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 FALSE. I'll make my offer one more time.

If you show me published sources for your claims about vaccine death rate, then I'll tell you about my first vaccination. We'll trade one-for-one. Source for vaccine. Since I asked first, you must answer first.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues So you aren't jabbed and you are not getting jabbed but you insist everyone else get jabbed because of fake data. How ironic

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